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Forums  > Game-World Feedback  > Game-World Feedback  > Enchanting, and bronze     Display using: Flat View Threaded View   Oldest to newest Newest to oldest Previous Thread :: Next Thread   Author  Thread: Enchanting, and bronze  Ritz www.myspace.com Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Total Posts: 217 Send PM   Enchanting, and bronze Posted: 21 Sep 2007 10:55 AM Slightly irritated. "Oh man, what a great idea! I'll make a two-bladed sword of acid! Let's see.... 0 of 1 Enchanting Oil 0 of 1 Bag of Acid 0 of 1 Bronze Two-Bladed Sword Okay... got the materials for the bag of acid... got the bronze... now to make the blade (which should be easy as pie! *at the armor crafting anvil in the trading post* Hm... Tin... copper... iron... What? No bronze?" Is it me, or is a two-bladed sword of acid (which would be really neat, and something to work towards) not conceivable to even craft, since the anvil does not give the option? Shouldn't an option be available to make weapons out of bronze, since the armor anvils allow bronze helms? Just a thought, before I go and toss all these ingots and badger leather (which is needed to make bags of acid.) What gives? -Ritz Tristian and Elghinn. NWN logon =UltimatiumOmega Lost item: Fire Bomb Tristian Vike damages Erin: 19 (19 Fire) Tristian Vike damages Tristian Vike: 7 (7 Fire) Tristian Vike damages Kard Snyder: 10 (10 Fire)  renter6 Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Total Posts: 684 Send PM   Re: Enchanting, and bronze Posted: 21 Sep 2007 11:19 AM I think this is just another hole in the CNR crafting as implemented on Vives. Apart from arrows, I just don't think its possible to craft weapons that do elemental damage. Enchanting is kind of like food crafting in this way - full of holes - I think Liisi exhausted the possibilities of food crafting on Vives and became familiar with which recipes work, and which ones don't. You'll find lots of funny stuff in the backwaters of tinkering, too, shields you can't make on the tailor's tables, hides you can't use, etc. I'm not sure those elemental bags are good for anything, or if they ever were. I might be wrong though. It could be worth testing the different recipes in case some of them do work, and its probably the only way to figure that out. ((Not complaining btw, I know this s**t is free!)) "What are you talking about?" "I'm talking about dying." "What's that supposed to mean?" "It means lying in the ground with dirt on your face and holding your breath forever." -Burt Reynolds, "The End"  Liisi Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Total Posts: 173 Send PM   Re: Enchanting, and bronze Posted: 21 Sep 2007 12:00 PM I'm guessing it's the same thing as it is with bullets - the recipe exists at the enchanting end, but you can't make the bullets. Or at least, that used to be how it was. IG character: Alis Rapidshill  Moriarty Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Total Posts: 256 Send PM   Re: Enchanting, and bronze Posted: 21 Sep 2007 12:05 PM :: A short, and more then likely incomplete list of metalworking/enchanting bugs :: The majority of hammers, axes, and flails that are in metals of silver, iron, platinum, and titanium are not producable. Most are labeled correctly for needed items but the anvils do not recognise when the wood shaft is placed inside. Bronze was removed as a metal option for armours, shields, helms, and weapons. Copper still works for most, including most axes, hammers, and flails. Other metals which still work for these weapons are mithril and adamantium. Silver coating is not possible, as again it gives you the recipe but does not register the holy water you place inside the brazier. Enchanting is limited to gems, ingots, and elemental bags which I believe all are fully functional. No shield, or weapon enchantments are working. Thats all I can bring to mind right at the moment, though I'm sure there are a few more metalworking options that are bugged. But hopefully this information helps keep you from setting out on a path that isn't open to you currently.  Ritz www.myspace.com Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Total Posts: 217 Send PM   Re: Enchanting, and bronze Posted: 21 Sep 2007 12:08 PM :: A short, and more then likely incomplete list of metalworking/enchanting bugs :: The majority of hammers, axes, and flails that are in metals of silver, iron, platinum, and titanium are not producable. Most are labeled correctly for needed items but the anvils do not recognise when the wood shaft is placed inside. Bronze was removed as a metal option for armours, shields, helms, and weapons. Copper still works for most, including most axes, hammers, and flails. Other metals which still work for these weapons are mithril and adamantium. Silver coating is not possible, as again it gives you the recipe but does not register the holy water you place inside the brazier. Enchanting is limited to gems, ingots, and elemental bags which I believe all are fully functional. No shield, or weapon enchantments are working. Thats all I can bring to mind right at the moment, though I'm sure there are a few more metalworking options that are bugged. But hopefully this information helps keep you from setting out on a path that isn't open to you currently. Leave it to the man that knows :D Thanks! Tristian and Elghinn. NWN logon =UltimatiumOmega Lost item: Fire Bomb Tristian Vike damages Erin: 19 (19 Fire) Tristian Vike damages Tristian Vike: 7 (7 Fire) Tristian Vike damages Kard Snyder: 10 (10 Fire)  ygsdrasil Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Total Posts: 137 Send PM   Re: Enchanting, and bronze Posted: 21 Sep 2007 07:41 PM AFAIK this has been the case for well over a year...there were a few items that could be made that would allow elemental damage.....one pc I saw had succeeded with a flaming weapon of one type and several pc's toted acid dmage weapons...none of which had wooden handles. Frankly I don't believe that it is desired by those in charge of the mod that players have such weapons. If you want elemental damage you are pretty much limited to multiclassing casters with that ability or casting from scroll.  Fictrix Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Total Posts: 3042 Send PM   Re: Enchanting, and bronze Posted: 21 Sep 2007 09:55 PM Frankly I don't believe that it is desired by those in charge of the mod that players have such weapons. We would like PCs to have those CNR weapons. It's just that in fixing CNR to be less frustrating, and in integrating it into Vives' mechanics, several things got broken.  ygsdrasil Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Total Posts: 137 Send PM   Re: Enchanting, and bronze Posted: 23 Sep 2007 08:28 PM 'kay...thx...I wasn't sure I like the CNR recipes but I have noticed there have been no recent releases or bugfixes either one of the CNR hak.  Kalannar Illistynn www.myspace.com Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Total Posts: 242 Send PM   Kalannar's Practical Guide to Crafting Posted: 27 Sep 2007 07:34 PM I'm only gonna do this once... Keeps a journal of what is craftable in his research. (He is a Devoted follower of Valstadoriun!) I'll edit it to keep the juicy details to himself, but listed below are all things that ARE craftable, and HAVE BEEN crafted before. --MP CRAFTING (Vives)-- (CraftingGod=Vastaldoriun) __COOKING SKILL__ Brewer's oven is now ineffective: no more roasted grains to make malts It once worked though! =BREWING=(All-Incl.=1BrYeast&4BrBottle) ROAST=>MALT=>WORT DarkDragonPils=1BarleyWort,4Hops, PigsEarPils=1OatWort,4Hops, Dwarf'sSledgeDraft=1WheatWort,3Hops,2Chesnut, FireWoodLager=1BarleyWort,3Hops,1Campsite, GreenForestDraft=1RiceWort,3Hops,4Clover, AxeHeadAmber=1WheatWort,2Hops, CrackedSkullCreamAle=1BarleyWort,2Hops,1Garg.Skull, RedCrowCreamAle=1BarleyWort,2Hops,1RoastedWheat Wizard'sWheatAle=1WheatWort,2Hops,1Pot.CureLight DeadOrcPorter=1BarleyWort,2Hops,1RoastedBarley, IronHammerBock=1BarleyWort,2Hops,2Hazelnut, BlackNightMalt=1BarleyWort,2Hops,3Blackberry, BrokenKnuckleBeer=1RyeWort,2Hops,1Skel.Knuckle, CherryRiverLambic=1CornWort,2Hops,1CherryJuice, JumpinJuniperBrau=1WheatWort,2Hops,2Jun.Berry, Wine=8Grape,FilledWaterBucket, ElvenWine=AsWine,+1GinsingRoot BlueSwordSwill=2RyeWort,3Blueberry, Will-o-Whisky=2CornWort, SilverBuckleGin=2RiceWort,3JuniperBerry, TowerMaltLiquor=2BarleyWort =PRESSING= -OILS- 4xCorn,Rice,Almond,Ches/Hazel/Walnuts,orPecan -JUICES- (EmptyJuiceBottle+) Apple-x4 Black/Blue/Cran/Elder/Juniper/RaspBerries-x8 Cherry-x8 Grape-x8 Pear-x4 =BAKING= was effective, all bakers ovens are unreachable by players without teleport spells -Breads- (Salt+BkYeast+CornOil+Flour) Cornbread does not work =FRUITDISHES= -PIES- (WhtFlour+Salt+CornOil+Sugar+) Apple=4xApples Cherry=6xCherries Blackberry=8xBlackberries Pecan=8xPecans -JELLIES&JAMS- (Apple+Sugar+) AppleJelly-AppleJuice CranberryJelly-CranberryJuice GrapeJelly-GrapeJuice BlackberryJam-BlackberryJuice+4xBlackberries ElderberryJam-ElderberryJuice+4xElderberries RaspberryJam-RaspberryJuice+4xRaspberries =MEATDISHES= (AnimalMeat+Salt+) RoastedMeat-just the above ingredients __ALCHEMISTRY__ =EXTRACTS= HealWort-AloeEss+WHazelEss+CohoshEss+CloverEss =CURATIVE POTIONS= CLW-GarlicEss+PepmintEss CMW-GarlicEss+WillowEss LRestore-GarlicEss+GingerEss CDisease-AloeEss+BirchBarkEss+ChamEss CSW-GarlicEss+ThistleEss+GingerEss Antidote-AloeEss+GingerEss+BelladonaEss+AlmondEss CCW-GarlicEss+GingerEss+AngelicaEss+ComfreyEss Heal-HealWort+HolyWater+AlmondEss+BirchBarkEss =ENCHANTING POTIONS= (all require a vial) Aid-GarlicEss+AloeEss+ChesnutEss Bless-ElderberryEss+HawthornEss Barkskin-BirchBarkEss+SpotShroom+FrAgateDiss Invisibility-WillowEss+ChamEss+PurpleShroom+EmrldDiss Speed-COHOSHRtEss+CatnipEss+BlkShroom+RubyDiss Lore-GinsengEss+SageEss Clarity-SageEss+SkullcapEss+ChamEss+PurpleShroom =ENHANCING POTIONS= (all require a vial) STR-ThistleEss+SpotShroom+MalachiteDiss DEX-WillowEss+WhiteShroom+AventurineDiss END-MintEss+RedShroom+GarnetDiss INT-SageEss+YellowShroom+FrAgateDiss WIS-GinsengEss+BlackShroom+PhenalopeDiss CHR-HawthornEss+PurpleShroom+AmethystDiss =ALCHEMICAL BREWS= AcidFlask-Flask+BmbrBtl+MnrlAcid AlchFire-Flask+FrBtl+MnrlAcid+Sugar ChkgPwdr-LthrPch+StnkBtl+Sulphur+Sugar FireBomb-Flask+FrBtl+Sulphur+sugar AcidBomb-Flask+BmbrBtl+MnrlAcid+Sulphur __ENCHANTING__ =BAGS= (all require a Leather Pouch) Bags are only useful for making traps, however there is rumor of a flaming weapon type possible, ask Talion or Dorian Sparks-Dust/FrAgate+BarleyFlr Acid-Dust/Sapphire+RyeFlr Fire-Dust/FrOpal+CornFlr Lightning-Dust/Topaz+RiceFlr Frost-Dust/Topaz+WheatFlr =GEMS= FineGemstone+EnchantingOil =INGOTS= MetalIngot+EnchantingOil =WEAPONS= __ARMORCRAFTING__ Kalannar doesn't work metal armours, ask Talion or Dorian =HELMS= (3xIngot+Mold,Helm) =ARMOURS= CHAIN SHIRT (6xIng+Padding+Ptrn,ChainShirt) =ARMOUR ABILITIES= ADAMANTIUM= MITHRIL= __WEAPONCRAFTING__ TIN= COPPER= IRON= TITANIUM= SILVER= GOLD= MITHRAL= PLATINUM= ADAMANTIUM= COBALT= =BLADES= Dagger-2xIngots+SmlCastgMold Scimitar-4xIngots+MedCastgMold ShtSwd-4xIngots+MedCastgMold Rapier-5xIngots+MedCastgMold LongSwd-5xIngots+LrgCastgMold =BLUNTS= LgtHammer-3xIngots+zz_ShtStvHickry+SmlCastgMold LgtFlail-3xIngots+SmlCastgMold __TINKERING__ Arrow/xBowHead-IronIngot+SmlMold Wire-2xIngot Gears&Springs-4xIngot Studs-4xIngot+BrnzStdMold CmpdBowCam-Gears&Sprgs+Wire (now obsolete) __WOODCRAFTING__ =ARROWS= -APPRENTICE- Masterwork-Shafts(Ash)+Heads(Iron)+Feathers Piercing-Masterwork+TitaniumIngot Crushing-Masterwork+IronIngot Ripping-Masterwork+GlassIngot -JOURNEYMAN- Arrows+2-Masterwork+EnchOil ofPiercing-Piercing+TitaniumIngot+EnchantOil ofCrushing-Crushing+IronIngot+EnchOil ofRipping-Ripping+GlassIngot+EnchOil Poison-Masterwork+BronzeIngot+SpiderVenom,Mild -MASTER- (all=EnchantOil+...) Arrows+3-masterworkArrows ofGrtPiercing-Piercing+EnchTitIngot ofGrtCrushing-Crushing+EnchIronIngot ofGrtRipping-Ripping+EnchGlassIngot -ELEMENTAL- (all=MasterwkArrow+EnchantOil) Fire-IronIngot Ice-TinIngot Acid-BronzeIngot Lightening-CopperIngot Thundering-PlatinumIngot -SPECIAL- Holy-Masterwork+SilverIngot+EnchantOil UnHoly-Masterwork+CobaltIngot+EnchantOil Smiting-Masterwork+GoldIngot+EnchantOil WildMagical-Masterwork+MithrilIngot+EnchantOil =SHORTBOWS= (per longbows but single quantities) =LONGBOWS= Basic-SinewStrg+2xStvAsh+2xIron Masterwork-SilkStrg+2xStvAsh+2xEnchIron Superb-SilkStrg+2xStvAsh+2xEnchIron Greater-PhaseSpiderStrg+2xStvAsh+2xEnchMithril =CompositeLongBows= (also req. 2xAnimalBone) Basic-SinewStrg+StvYew+2xIron Masterwork-SilkStrg+2xStvYew+2xEnchIron Superb-SilkStrg+2xStvYew+2xEnchIron Greater-PhaseStrg+2xStvYew+2xEnchMithril =LegendaryLongbow= (also Composite) PhsSpdrString+2xStvYew+2xEnchMithril+EnchAdmntm __TAILORING__ =HEALING KITS= (cumulative per alch.ingr=+1/ea.) Cotton (2min) +Aloe Leaf +Garlic Clove 1 (+1) +Comfrey Root 2 (+3) +Ginger Root 3 (+6) +Ginsing Root 4 (+10) =ARMOR= -STUDDED-(Studs+Cloth+3Lg/5MedTannedLeathers) Tin/Copper -5xDeerLeather IronStudded -5xBoarLeather SilverStudded -5WolfLthr PlatinumStudded -3xCragLeather TitaniumStudded -3xGrizly CobaltStudded -3xMalarLeather GoldStudded -3xBrownBearLthr MithrilStudded -3xWinterWolfLeather AdamantiumStudded -3xPolarBearLthr -LEATHER&HIDEARMOUR- (Leather=3TannedHides+Pattern) (Hide=4CuredHides+Pattern+Cloth) LeopardArmour JaguarArmour WargArmour BrownArmour GrizzlyArmour LionArmour PolarArmour MalarArmour =SHIELDS= (SmallShields) Wolfhide-CuredWolf+4xShtStaveOak BrownBearhide-CuredBrBear+4xShtStaveOak __JEWELING__ =Rings= (RingMold+Ench.Ingot+Ench.Gem) Copper+Greenstone Copper+Malachite Copper+FireAgate Copper+Aventurine Bronze+Phenalope Bronze+Amethyst =Scarabs= (ScarabMold+Ench.Ingot+2xEnch.Gems) Bronze+Greenstone Bronze+Malachite Bronze+FireAgate Bronze+Adventurine Gold+Phenalope Gold+Amethyst =Necklaces= (NecklaceMold+Ench.Ingot+Ench.Gem) Bronze+Feldspar Bronze+Garnet Gold+Alexandrite Gold+Topaz Gold+Sapphire Gold+FireOpal Platinum+Diamond Platinum+Ruby Platinum+Emerald =Amulets= (AmuletMold+Ench.Ingot+2xEnch.Gems) Gold+Feldspar Gold+Garnet Plat+Alexandrite Plat+Topaz Plat+Sapphire Plat+FireOpal Silver+Diamond Silver+Ruby Silver+Emerald --ROLE PLAY-- __VivesLore__ . . . All of the above Items have been crafted at one time or another, or kalannar has seen crafted byothers. Only some have become obsolete to to revamps in the woodcrafting system, the Brewer's Oven having no script, or oherwise. I've noted above which are the case. Difficult metal weapons and metal armour are not a persuit that Kalannar has chosen to persue as of yet. I took out the notes of all the FX that those items do... if you want to know, FOIG. That would be an unfair spoiler. (All of this information you can find out by consulting a crafting station, but here at least you know what HAS been made!!!) Hope that helps! Kalannar "Life is a short trip... travel light" -- PC Descriptions with Journal Links  renter6 Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Total Posts: 684 Send PM   Re: Kalannar's Practical Guide to Crafting Posted: 27 Sep 2007 08:45 PM RE: hide shields, you can still make the wooden components for these on the wood crafting benches - its the last menu labeled "old stuff" or something. You can succeed with all the hide shield crafting recipes, but only 2 of them kick out shields. You can make wolf hide and brown bear hide shields on the tailoring tables, size small, large and tower. They are both pretty decent. "What are you talking about?" "I'm talking about dying." "What's that supposed to mean?" "It means lying in the ground with dirt on your face and holding your breath forever." -Burt Reynolds, "The End" Previous Thread :: Next Thread  Page 1 of 1   Forums  > Game-World Feedback  > Game-World Feedback  > Enchanting, and bronze