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Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 07 Jan 2006 05:20 PM |
Now that the great Is Fish is Meat thread is sadly running its cause . i thought i would start a similar one , hopefully some of the uncritisised nationallities can be abused and beliefs such as the earth being round can be poo pooed
So Eggs.....
They no diferent to a butter bean really
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My God! Thats an unborn feotus you slime ball , spit it out man ! |
If you catch a butterfly.
You can either keep it and watch it die.
Or let it go and watch it fly away.
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 07 Jan 2006 05:42 PM |
| Well, I vote vegetarian ... maybe. Vegan, obviously not. Vegans dont even chew gum because it contains -something- from an animal (forget what is was, some bi-product). There's varying levels of being a vegetarian from no meat, thats all ... to extreme vegan. |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 07 Jan 2006 06:25 PM |
| Really, I don't care if something is vegetarian or not, just gimme food! *Chomps down on his steak* |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 07 Jan 2006 06:52 PM |
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Here's a thought. Let's get an egg and start our own chicken farm. We'll have all the eggs we can eat.
Right. We'll need a chicken.
No. We need an egg first. That's where you get the chicken.
Cobblers... Without a chicken, where do you get an egg?
From the chicken that comes from the egg.
But you need an egg to have a chicken.
But you get the chicken to get the egg. Then you get the egg... the chicken out.
Hang on. Let's go over this again.
~*~
...The egg, obviously. Rolling along, happy as Larry, then crack! - Hatches into the first chicken.
But where'd the egg come from?
What do you mean?
Egg comes rolling along, happy as Larry. It's wondering, where'd it come from? Without a chicken, you get no egg to come rolling along.
Without an egg, you get no chicken to lay the other egg that hatches into the chicken I mentioned.
...We got two eggs now?
No, we're still talking about the first egg.
What about the first chicken?
It's in the first egg.
Er, guys? Guys!
I'm trying to enjoy paradise over here.
Sorry, guv.
Beg your pardon.
Won't happen again.
Thanks.
...Gitface.
...Pillock.
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 08 Jan 2006 06:58 AM |
I personally don't see a difference between an Egg and a Seedless Orange. Fundementally, they are both the same design, made of the same parts, for the same purposes. That's probably why they both make such breakfast foods.
Honestly though, this whole vegetarian thing has always had me thinking.... and I decided there are like... well.... 4 kinds of food out there.
1.) Early growth nutritionment stuff that ensures proper survival through the first few days/weeks of life. Eggs, Fruits, nuts, and a score of Vegetables, bulbs, and Definitely grains, (Which consequently means pretty much every liquor on the planet, from wines, ales, to spirits, well, except for like Vodka, that's made from potatoes.) It's all the same crap! I might even put milk, and, consequently, all dairy products in this category, because it's all the same thing, Stealing food that was made for someone elses baby! Bonuses: Very rich, high in everything and specially designed, by nature, and by sacrificing the necessary included nutrition from the mother, to be GREAT for you, no kidding, the best stuff on earth, by law. Nature just wants creatures to live through birth, procreate, and doesn't really care about longevity, so it doesn't get much better than this. I'm talking everything, from the kingdom of algaes, to pistacios, grapes, even corn. This food type always reminds me of Velociraptors stealing eggs from big dinosaur nests for some reason. It's always about stealing from babies, or stealing babies. So next time you take a bite into an apple, remember, all that yummy mushy sweet stuff was made for the apple tree to live off of, and all it's goodness was made (with a lot of hard work from mom) to be great for someone else besides you.
2.) Working Organs, devices used for specific tasks, in life. This is all your muscle tissue, leafy substance, fleshy areas of several forms of life. Yes, I'm talking about Steak and Potatoes, Liver, fish, Lettuce, ... these forms of food all carry nutrition because they are made of of the some combinations of matter that you need in... well, your working organs and devices used for specific tasks. Items in this category can come from young living tissue, or old living tissue, depending on the specific form of life. (Tea and Veal are both very young, for example) This is all the alive stuff, Fruits and grains might be considered organic, but, if you stab a tree in the apple with a knife, I don't think he'll feel it. This is like stealing someone elses stuff, from them, rather than stealing a gift they intended for someone else before they were able to give it.
3.) The third category is pretty simple, its mostly non-organic matter. Chemicals. Water, Iron, Salt, Zinc, "Vitamins" Even Oxygen. Despite being a small percentage of someone's "Diet" per se, this stuff is fed in massive quantities to every cell in your body every second, esepcially oxygen (which is food) and water.
4.) This is pretty much 1 thing, the Sun, but I guess could be named any "Energy" source, fed in energy form (Electromagnetism) rather than matter. Usually, only plants are the only "Ethical" creatures able to make most of their own food from radiation (and then eat it, or have someone steal it), but I guess that still is just leaning on someone else (The Sun). I guess if you have like.... uhh... you know those plants living at the bottom of the Merianas Trench, that glow in the dark, and live off of radiation from the seismic activity down there.... I don't know...it could be considered something else in this category.. but... *shrugs*
The body also uses the sun to "Stimulate" the production of necessary Vitamins, such as Vitamins D and K, but I say Stimulate, rather than make, cause you're not actually stealing any of the sun's vitamins in your skin, because that's the difference between the properties of matter and energy.
Yeah... so that's my rant. If you want to pick just one of these categories to eat from, well, that's cool... but if you're picking out some things in a category, and eating the others, well that's like not eating a specific food because of your respect, like not eating grapes because of the migrant farm workers... or something, at least I say so. Some stuff is more based for Human consumption, which might concern all of you Homo Sapiens out there.... *shrugs* Eat what you'd like, I guess.
But get one thing straight, whether you're saving a cute little cows life or not, you're still stealing... *Shrugs* I think the vast population of "Selective diets" walking around here though are usually either for religious or scientific reasons, which is personally acceptable, That's just honor and intelligence, and that's the stuff that life is all about. *thumbs up*
Edit: any dieticians or scientists out there feel free to shoot me down, I just came back from my evening with my friends showing me the world of being 21 (booze) so I may not be thinking my straightest, which also might not be that straight to begin with, concerning something I know little about, let alone profess at. |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 08 Jan 2006 07:14 AM |
Well the egg=foetus analogy is a bit inaccurate, as eggs for eating are not fertilised, they are just the oocytes.
More analagous is to say that eggs are chickens periods, which would be produced anyway and discarded.
So unless you consider every period to be an act of abortion, eggs are vegetarian (but not vegan). |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 08 Jan 2006 07:16 AM |
| That's why I used the Seedless Orange Analgoy, although that might not be 100% analagous. |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 08 Jan 2006 07:28 AM |
| Seedless oranges are a bit more brutal - you basically take a cutting from a mutant tree that's unable to reproduce and graft it onto normal trees - the cutting grows and produces mutant (seedless) oranges. (ie, they're clones). But I get what you are saying - about eating something discarded by the tree that's unable to reproduce. |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 08 Jan 2006 02:14 PM |
Excellently rant Veran.
A school of thought that will no doubt find its way into the educational curriculum where you live
I'm really looking forward to next summer so that i can try stabbing a tree in the apple, because i reckon it would feel it.
I'm also going to try squeezing a Hazel by its nuts; tell me it cant feel that
In the mean time i have tried gouging a potatoe in the eyes , (not really valid i know as the spud isnt attached to its parent plant), and thought i saw the indoor fern on the kitchen windowsill flinch slightly.
Also Veran, are you reminded of velociraptors stealing big dinosaur eggs EVERY time you eat one of the afore mentioned food types? This interests me greatly because, whenever i steal peoples babies I'm reminded of Algae and Pistacios.
Finally what are the "Unethical" creatures able to make most of their own food from radiation ? Do you mean DM's perhaps ?
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If you catch a butterfly.
You can either keep it and watch it die.
Or let it go and watch it fly away.
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 08 Jan 2006 03:07 PM |
Hmmm... well I found Veran's theory entertaining, if anything.
According to a standard english dictionary, and A medical one.
Vegetarianism is:
"The practice of subsisting on a diet composed primarily or wholly of vegetables, grains, fruits, nuts, and seeds, with or without eggs and dairy products"
So if your a crazy person, and your down with some milk and Eggs in the morning, then go for it. If you got issues eating eggs (which are already fertilized in the case of the chicken) don't... end of story. |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 08 Jan 2006 04:06 PM |
Eggs are not already fertilized, that's the point :p
http://www.hhmi.org/cgi-bin/askascientist/highlight.pl?kw=&file=answers%2Fgeneral%2Fans_023.html
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=467055
no rooster = no fertilization :p |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 09 Jan 2006 11:59 AM |
Not all Vodkas are made from potatoes ;)
I would say about only 5% are, many use grains such as rye, soy, wheat, and other starchy sources ;) |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 09 Jan 2006 12:17 PM |
| ewww, soy Vodka? |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 09 Jan 2006 01:20 PM |
hehe, it's vodka veran.... A neutral Spirit. So the goal reguardless of it's organic base is to be almost tasteless and have as few anti-oxidants, which are associated with hang-overs, as possible. So cheers man, drink up whether it be from Taters , grain or soy. Cuz in the end, it'll get ya drunk! |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 10 Jan 2006 02:56 AM |
Eggs are not already fertilized, that's the point :p
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no rooster = no fertilization :p
you have to forgive Sammy (that Lord guy). while your statement likely applies to a vast majority of the population, it doesn't really apply to him. see, he does have a farm. with chickens which lay ~daily. and boy do those eggs taste good. wonder if the fertilization process makes a difference...or natural color of the shell...or maybe the lack of genetic alteration/hormones supplementation to maximize the size of the eggs. oh, a rooster, too...what's that guy's name? anyway...it is certainly possible that the eggs that HE eats are fertilized...according to how 'active' the rooster is, loving his ladies. |
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Re: Are eggs vegetarian?
Posted: 20 Jan 2006 02:20 PM |
Vodka. Ick. *shudders*
In my experience, vegetarians are among the most physically weak and easily sickened peeps out there. I'm not saying to eat bacon double cheeseburgers, but come on ... find a happy medium.
Eat some fruit with every meal and walk half hour a day and you'll be healthy as a horse.
One that eats apples sometimes. |
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