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Merchants
Posted: 22 Jan 2005 05:39 PM |
We are currently experimenting with persistent merchants again, hence the sudden bolstering of the various merchant's inventories.
-Barnas |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 22 Jan 2005 07:25 PM |
No way....
*deep ponder* |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 23 Jan 2005 10:00 AM |
Yes way.
One of the reasons that the persistent merchants were removed last year was because of the apparent lag introduced into the server caused by the opening/closing of their inventories.
So, I would like your feedback - Has the server become more laggy since I have added them back in?
If so, I may have to rethink the entire persistent inventory process.
- Paul |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 23 Jan 2005 12:36 PM |
| I've noticed with some of the merchants with updated inventories, you will briefly see what looks like the Old inventory, before it updates to show the new additions. Think this in Ferein.. can't be sure though |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 23 Jan 2005 12:43 PM |
That is correct.
If you see something unusual, please let me know about it.
- Paul |
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And makes the world taste good."
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 23 Jan 2005 03:22 PM |
Sometimes waiting for the database to load takes a long time.
I was having some lag issues last night, but like 20 guys were logged into the server. I'm gonna try to experiment when there's a few less people around. |
- [Rob], Balthor, Jake, and Thomas. |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 23 Jan 2005 03:57 PM |
I've noticed, and other people I know mentioned it, a good amount of lag lately. I thought it was me, but it seems it's not only me. Started ever since the merchants, I think.
Just thought I should mention it... |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 23 Jan 2005 04:37 PM |
| I haven't noticed much server lag, but I have noticed that the updated inventories of the merchants lag when they load, most especially the ones with multiple pages. |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 12:08 AM |
Right.
Large merchant inventories are a possible problem. I'm working on a method to address that.
Next weekend, I will turn them off again for a few days just to see if anyone notices the difference.
In the meantime, if you see any status messages like "TMI Error" blah, blah, blah "on_merchant_load", bug report it so I can deal with it directly.
Thanks for your patience in this matter.
- Paul |
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And makes the world taste good."
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 12:21 AM |
| I will say I have noticed a delay when looking at my own inventory? is this a possib;e side effect? |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 12:29 AM |
No,
delays in loading your own inventory screens are caused by one or more of the following:
1/ Size of your inventory (larger inventories require more data to be sent to the player)
2/ client side network lag (your connection might be temporarily slow to the server depending on the state of the internet between the client and the server)
3/ current load on the server (which is running lightly loaded at the moment)
4/ network bandwidth utilization of the server (which right now, is not a problem)
- Paul |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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"...Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good."
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<@James42> Lawful good isn't in your vocabulary, it's on your menu.
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 02:52 AM |
| well guyver inventory is well... yaknow :) |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 05:44 AM |
well guyver inventory is well... yaknow :)
No comment. |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 07:20 AM |
I've noticed a very slight lag on the merchants inventory - not enough to get annoyed about though. Lag with a merchant isn't going to get you killed.
In general though, I do like the change with the merchants - I think it's much much better now. You go to a merchant and there's a lot more on offer.
It was lagging a fair bit this weekend I found, but then I always find it lags when I'm around the Icy Vale area - not sure why but it does always seem that way.
Only status message I've seen recently has been the same one I always see - something about error spawning and vampires. |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 08:13 AM |
I always find it lags when I'm around the Icy Vale area - not sure why but it does always seem that way.
It freezes your screen.. |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 10:14 AM |
well guyver inventory is well... yaknow :)
No comment.
Veran organizes the boxes in his inventory. It's twisted. "The four corners are for clothes, the alternating rows are for weapons, every three columns are for boots, belts, and gloves..."
He carries around more stuff that I thought existed. Then again, I'm not much better. |
- [Rob], Balthor, Jake, and Thomas. |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 10:38 AM |
well guyver inventory is well... yaknow :)
No comment.
Veran organizes the boxes in his inventory. It's twisted. "The four corners are for clothes, the alternating rows are for weapons, every three columns are for boots, belts, and gloves..."
He carries around more stuff that I thought existed. Then again, I'm not much better.
Your both insane. I wouldn't doupt if the two of you carried around more than the rest of Vives, combined. |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 10:41 AM |
| My inventory only weighs 194 pounds, thankyou. |
- [Rob], Balthor, Jake, and Thomas. |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 10:52 AM |
They've not quite beaten Slink, I don't think, who TMIed the server when logging out, and caused a 30 second lag spike logging in.
-Barnas |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 10:59 AM |
I also did that for a while, mostly due to carrying crafting supplies. Since then I managed my invent a little better. But I only caused 5 seconds of lag tops! ;P |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 11:00 AM |
I always find it lags when I'm around the Icy Vale area - not sure why but it does always seem that way.
It freezes your screen..
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Thank you for posting.
- Paul
/me runs off to look for Sug characters somewhere... |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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"...Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good."
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<@James42> Lawful good isn't in your vocabulary, it's on your menu.
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 11:01 AM |
They've not quite beaten Slink, I don't think, who TMIed the server when logging out, and caused a 30 second lag spike logging in.
-Barnas
That bit of the code was removed by Q recently, so it will not happen now.
- Paul
PS: also, the new stackable crafting changes should help with your massive inventories. |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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"...Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good."
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<@James42> Lawful good isn't in your vocabulary, it's on your menu.
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 11:14 AM |
Huzzah for help for crafters!
Components take up so much dang space.
-Barnas |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 02:22 PM |
| My god.. Their gonna be able to carry MORE! |
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Re: Merchants
Posted: 24 Jan 2005 02:41 PM |
Hey, if carrying 200 Extracting Alcohols is wrong, then I don't wanna be right.
Besides. Most of the junk in my inventory goes to the Community Cabinet (I have a whole new donation getting ready tonight). And I generally curtail my crafting supplies (I only have a two bags of crafting stuff, minus the extracting alcohols for a special project) by going on crafting binges here and again.
In other words, I only have about 190 pounds of premium quality awesome stuff. Wands, scrolls, jewelry, weapons.
In any case, as much as I'd love to enjoy the benefits, I disagree with the merchant system in its current form. What I would like to see is every merchant reset, and severe limits set on what each merchant will buy.
But what would be nice is a good arms dealer in Port Royale. |
- [Rob], Balthor, Jake, and Thomas. |
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