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Forums  > Essential Information  > News  > IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide     Display using: Flat View Threaded View   Oldest to newest Newest to oldest Previous Thread :: Next Thread   Author  Thread: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide  Arathon vives.dyndns.org Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1885 Send PM   IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 08 Jul 2003 10:56 AM After much toiling for the past 4 days, we are now ready to move to Full SoU status whenever we wish to. There will be a new (small) Hak to Download to enable folks to play. This was necessary as SoU messed with all the haks we used, do we had to re-order them all with the new hak (rather than redo all of the haks and make everyone DL all them in their 100mb zipped Glory again). What this means is now all monster/placeables and other fun stuff from BOTH our haks and SoU are available to builders and DM's alike. Plus the new feats/classes etc etc. So keep a look out for some new and exciting things coming your way soon! Also, the treasure tables have been completely overhauled meaning no more silly drops from kobolds and Goblins etc. We'll obviously let you know when the move is expected (although it is imminent) asap, and also when and where you can download the new hak. Ta Arathon P.S. When we do this then unfortunately only SoU owners will be able to connect-to and play on the server. Apologies go to those who don't have it yet (of there are any :P), but there will always a situation where everyone in irc won't. Vives Screenshots!  Fenarisk Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Total Posts: 823 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 08 Jul 2003 09:24 PM I tried to make a new .mod, using all the haks vives uses, including the new 2da hak to mesh both well, as well as one more hak. Unfortunetly after the long importing process, nothing is there, no selectables/terrains/ANYTHING from the haks it just imported... This going on due to the new 2da or did I do something wrong, or is this a bug? ~Fenarisk  Aria Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1035 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 08 Jul 2003 11:01 PM Fenarisk wrote: I tried to make a new .mod, using all the haks vives uses, including the new 2da hak to mesh both well, as well as one more hak. Unfortunetly after the long importing process, nothing is there, no selectables/terrains/ANYTHING from the haks it just imported... This going on due to the new 2da or did I do something wrong, or is this a bug? Wetware error I think :D -- As a very related aside, I'd like to let you other folks know what Ara did. Basically, instead of temporarily fixing the mod by appending SoU contents at a later stage, Ara merged both contents in a manner that would allow our custom contents to bridge seamlessly for SoU, future Patches, as well as ExpansionPack-II. Without having tested the module I can't say how it works, but the work involved was, beyond the (steep) learning curve of merging the hakpaks, updating every single custom placeable and every single custom creature. Now this is true Persistency... Thank you Ara! Arizzle Aria So talented, so troubled.  Aria Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1035 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 08 Jul 2003 11:47 PM After that... on the track of tedium... I've decided to see how far we've come... and this is the result: The pre-beta Vives v0.85-SoU currently has 356 areas, 487 custom creatures/NPCs, 3821 custom items, 435 custom placeables, 1498 custom scripts, and 198 conversation files totally to 37320 words. Over the past month Vives had 1156 visits totalling 1168 hours. A large Thank-you to everybody, for writing, scripting, external stuff-ing, or just being with us thru-out the ups-n'-downs, being plain patient and supportive... Thank you! Arizzle Aria So talented, so troubled.  Fenarisk Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Total Posts: 823 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 08 Jul 2003 11:53 PM Wow those numbers are staggering...what I'd like to see is Vives pre-publicity, like 3-4 months ago, to see just how far it has come. I know since I;ve been here there has been a lot of large leaps and bounds above what was already included... As well... *Cheers and rallies for 500 areas total :D* ~Fenarisk  Aria Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1035 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 09 Jul 2003 02:22 AM To put this in perspective, this is a stats comparison for Editions 0.85-SoU and 0.42 (n.b. March; first QNX-driven version I think)... Areas: 356 - 182 Creatures: 487 - 226 Custom Items: 3871 - 2870 Custom Placeables: 435 - 105 Convo: 198 - 87 Scripts: 1498 - 1047 ModuleSize: 54.0Mb - 27.2Mb Long way indeed! :) Arizzle Aria So talented, so troubled.  Sug 80flavours.com Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Total Posts: 448 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 09 Jul 2003 04:07 AM ow that's a very impressive list! losta items comming soon ;) Good work all! Sug "ehehehehe,.." Try to look unimportant, they may be low on ammo.  McGurk Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 29 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 09 Jul 2003 05:00 AM wow! If Slappy wore a hat he'd take it off to you guys. Brilliant. Slap  Arathon vives.dyndns.org Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1885 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 09 Jul 2003 09:22 AM Oki Fen What I essentially did is create a new 2da hak as Aria said. What you need to do if you want to import them into another modis follow exactly the order of the haks when you import them. Whilst also removing the old vives2da hak which was on top of the list and replace that with the new SOU 2da hak. (NOTE: This is only for builders). Now if you import these into a new mod then none of the custom stuff will appear in the pallette, but all the appearances will be there. You -could- go into the new version of the mod and export all custom stuff from the pallette and import it into the "new" version that you wish to work on though. Cheers Arathon Vives Screenshots!  Arathon vives.dyndns.org Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1885 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 09 Jul 2003 10:05 AM IMPORTANT! We are now testing the SOU version for which you will need a small hak. This is not ab=vailable on the website til this weekend so pop into irc and we'll send it to you (only 65 zipped, tiny really) or leave your e-mail and we'll e-mail it to you. Thanks Ara Vives Screenshots!  Lisen Joined: 09 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 373 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 10 Jul 2003 12:21 PM Could you email the hak to me? Thanks! iceline_trail@yahoo.co.uk Beware the vortex of bureaucracy  Quietus Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 803 Send PM   Re: IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide Posted: 10 Jul 2003 12:57 PM If you would prefer not to publicly leave your email, we can use the email address you registered with on the website. Also, when I get home on Friday eve, I will build a consolidated HAK installer. Previous Thread :: Next Thread  Page 1 of 1   Forums  > Essential Information  > News  > IMPORTANT: Vives and Shadows of Undrentide