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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 04 Apr 2005 02:00 AM |
| read the first post in the thread. all changes will be put there and the thread bumped as necessary |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 04 Apr 2005 03:54 AM |
I can confirm that Mestil's Acid Sheath now lasts considerably longer than it used to.
Given how this is by far the best defensive spell IG this is truly awesome.
Thanks PDW |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 04 Apr 2005 04:10 AM |
I can confirm that Mestil's Acid Sheath now lasts considerably longer than it used to.
Given how this is by far the best defensive spell IG this is truly awesome.
Thanks PDW
Unfortunately, they have to hit you for it to do anything useful.
Which is great, unless you dont have a lot of hitpoints.
- Paul |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 04 Apr 2005 04:42 AM |
| [moderators notes: edited because of the slight hints given away] |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 04 Apr 2005 04:49 AM |
Tactics and specifics of techniques are to be discussed IG only. Not hinted at in the forums as this is not the place for it.
Thanks.
- Paul |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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<@James42> Lawful good isn't in your vocabulary, it's on your menu.
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 04 Apr 2005 11:30 AM |
My apologies.
I had thought I had removed it, but can see it still might have given something away.
Apologies again. This wasnt intentional. |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 01:56 AM |
| Both Elemental Shield and Mestils Acid Sheath are back to round/level |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 05:59 AM |
Not sure about Mestil's Acid Sheath, seemed to last a while when I used it.
True Seeing however, which is suposed to be 1turn per level appeared to be much closer to 1 round per level. |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 06:08 AM |
| Tried it tonight, it was very much 1 round. Couldn't have lasted more than a minute or three |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 06:13 AM |
I'm pretty sure it worked as normal when I used it GMT daytime yesterday and certainly was ok before that.
So if it only lasted a few minutes for Glor last night, maybe something was changed in between.
Hope that helps identify the problem.
(That said I just may not have noticed,) |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 06:30 AM |
It is not a problem, it is an intentional change, it was too overpowered, so was changed back.
Sorry pdw has been real busy as usual doing a 101 things for Vives, so probably didnt get the chance to post that he was changing it back.
Cheers,
Sirac |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 06:36 AM |
What!! Thats outrageous. It really is only a very minor spell!!! Honest!! *grins*
In truth I said exactly that to Carlton following the change. The time limit is the only thing which makes it IMHO a spell not of the Epic Class, and extending it made it very very powerful.
Shame though. Means I have to keep casting!!
Glad I didnt find out the hard way. |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 06:52 AM |
Both Elemental Shield and Mestils Acid Sheath are back to round/level
Correct.
It turned out to be too powerful to leave it at 1 turn/level.
- Paul |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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"...Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good."
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<@James42> Lawful good isn't in your vocabulary, it's on your menu.
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 08:15 AM |
I have a request about undead spells, is it possible to make them non undead like goloms or somthing as it means that all good and nutural characters will get access to more spells
Carlton |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 08:36 AM |
customized summons is on my list - don't know when I will get to it though as it is rather far down the list at the moment.
- Paul |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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"...Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good."
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<@James42> Lawful good isn't in your vocabulary, it's on your menu.
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 09:13 AM |
I have a request about undead spells, is it possible to make them non undead like goloms or somthing as it means that all good and nutural characters will get access to more spells
Carlton
Whilst some of these should definitely apply, some should not. Animate dead and create greater undead definitely should not be changed. You are either the type of character that would cast them or you are not. I personally would love to see a small evil shift any time they are cast.
Gate already has been altered, if you can find the people IG to teach you.
But yes, things like epic mummy dust, dragon knight, etc I would love to see changed, as they are one off epic spells that should be open to all alignments.
Cheers,
Sirac |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 09:24 AM |
OOh, cool.
I know one spell i would love to see in the game is Teleport.
Is this possible? |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 01:43 PM |
Why should Mummy Dust be changed? It's just the same as create undead, but more powerful.
-Barnas |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 01:45 PM |
Because all the epic summon spells summon an evil creature...and there should be other alignment variants. So I would prefer to see it become a "champion" spell rather than an undead summoning spell.
That is already how at least 2 epic mages I know rp it also.
Cheers,
Sirac |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 01:56 PM |
I'd rather see Dragon Knight changed, but Mummy Dust left.
However, I imagine that the reason epic summoning spells are evil slanted is that it's hard to find anything better than a Throne Archon or Elemental to summon which isn't evil. 'cos most immortal stuff, the only stuff better, is...well.... evil.
-Barnas |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 02:05 PM |
adding "champion" spells requires adding new spells to the mod
possible, bit it takes some work to edit the tlk files, and other related 2da files. This typically only happens during a patch.
changing a spell (such as mummy dust) can be done anytime basically
Thus, it is easier and faster to do the latter than the former
- Paul |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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"...Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good."
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<@James42> Lawful good isn't in your vocabulary, it's on your menu.
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 02:11 PM |
Think you've misunderstood man, want epic mummy dust to remain as is, but just change the appearance of the creature summoned, so it is not undead.
Mummy dust is the only easily achievable, decent duration, epic summons available, and should not be evil oriented only.
Sean |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 03:28 PM |
*nods*
No, I am going to do that to mummy dust.
Just set the appearance according ot the alignment of the caster
- Paul |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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"...Cause he mixes it with love
And makes the world taste good."
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<@James42> Lawful good isn't in your vocabulary, it's on your menu.
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 03:29 PM |
| Should not the epic spell system have changed all of this anyway? |
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Re: v2-59-9a changes
Posted: 10 Apr 2005 04:00 PM |
| how do you mean? |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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