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Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 12:21 PM |
I have seen servers that, as much as we hate to see this cliched phrase, are "Lovey Dovey" I have seen Drow be welcomed on sight, half-orcs welcome in Elven cities, Dwarves hugging Elves, etc.
I do not wish to see that in Vives. I don't know the fine-tuned server specific rascisms, but I haven't seen any at all. I try to be good about that with my dwarf, but still... For the most part, I want to see a basic set of rascisms and a story line behind it. If you want me to write it, send me a PM with any rules and regulations on it. If you say anything goes, I'll give ya something new and interesting. I'll check my PMs around 7:59 EST tomorow, 10/7/03 and I hope to have a go-ahead on it. I'll start writing them up after that, but I need somebody's go-ahead.
It's what I'm here for! You need it, you got it. Just give the word.
Tasra Amalayax,
Derfel Fastfoot,
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 12:59 PM |
Here's my take on this:
I hate to force racisms on players, or to force pre-conceieved notions. Forced RP doesn't often work very well, so saying "Since you are an elf, you must hate all half-orcs" is way out of league pertaining to freedom of RP. Now, on the other hand, if a character chooses to be racist with an RP reason (parents killed by said race, bully from childhood was a half-orc, etc), then by all means the racism is acceptable.
HOWEVER...Racism is not a 100% pure excuse for PK'ing, Forced RP, Any language or actions that would take the server to NC-17 or above, or would offend people in real life (using real world slang, racist terms, racist actions such as cross burnings, etc). If what you decide to act on with your racism is not included above, and is RP'ed well, then by all means have at it.
On another note, however, there hasn't been much need of racism as most PC's get along pretty well, we don't have many evil or hostile PC's for the most part. Even the most brutish, bloodthirsty half-orcs are rather pleasent to be around in Vives .
~Fenarisk |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 01:14 PM |
hmm,
well..
I think IG racism is pretty .. i duno.. realistic..
I mean.. no forced racism.. that is just forced RP..
having the 'normal' racism (orcs vs elves, dwarves vs elves, humans vs orcs etc etc etc) is pretty ol' and boring.. and is based on worlds' historys that are not vive's.
I suggest inserting vive's history some events that will affect the relations between diffrent races,
so people can choose - either their chars are affected by the events and stereotypes, or either they ignore it.
also - adding -new- stereotypes can be a great thing,
i mean.. how come the halflings are rouges and the elves are druids ?
why not making the elves monks while the halflings are rangers?
not to mention sexual diffrences inside the races,
like drows, where the female are those who rule,
why wont the gnomish females rule the gnomish tribes?
changing humans might become hard, but about the other races, why not?
and we can also add whole new subraces, mechanic wise they will be exactly like their 'basic race' but they will be from completely diffrent background?
like having fiendish halflings that are rarely seen, they are somewhat like tieflings, but they got a whole culture and tribes - that basicly wait for the day when their god will walk upon the earth and they will take over the world?
Dems |
You are more than welcome to ignore my spelling mistakes =p |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 03:03 PM |
If you read the PDF file, there is low-key racism implicit in the Midorian religion, human against non-human. It remains to be seen whether their love of justice overcomes their love of seeming superior to all other races. *grin*
I'm very much against pre-determined racism in Vives. Like Fenerisk and Dens, I think it takes a big chunk out of RP freedom to tell players who their character must hate for no obvious reason. My main character started as a blank slate with regard to races, having never seen any race but her own for all her life before she arrived in Vives. She has a very strong self-image of her own race, but her perceptions of individuals of the other races is all built on how they have treated her and what they have said and done in her presence since she has arrived at Vives. In this way she is building a profile of various races and religions, which may become prejudices with time. My second character is almost the exact opposite, except that she is too canny to let anyone know what she really thinks. This is due to years of dealing with the public on a pecuniary basis. |
Dieties preserve us from the evil chaotics named Lag, Crash, and Server Reset.
PCs: Loli Dankirk (Ftr 18/Brd 8.5 @ 1777 hrs) left Vives for Origins; Gnora Gnombody (Sor 5 @ 54 hrs) and Amanda Stark (Wiz 3 @ ~10 hrs) left Vives for Feline Providence. |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 04:01 PM |
well that's what i mean,
you wont have 100% pre-defined stereostypes just because the other race.. is another race..
there should be small things that will define the avarage of each race,
and each char can choose wether to stick to these small things or not,
wether to see ppl as individuals or wether to be a racist and spit on everyone who is not as superior as you..
I think that these things should be.. err.. in the background i guess.
so there wont be any forced RP.. but chars will have a lot of things to choose that will determine their relations with other races..
Dens |
You are more than welcome to ignore my spelling mistakes =p |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 05:02 PM |
Without things like racism, or other small tings that 'limit' peoples RPing you are left with a world devoid of any unique qualities. On this thread and other threads however I notice people seem dead set against anything that they feel is a limitation. My worry (and my only big complaint thus far concerning Vives) is that without these things we are left with a generic PHB world.
It also leads IMO to worse RPing as I often feel I am in a chat room in game because players refuse to react in anyway but positive to other players and their actions. Players like all other races, players don't think that summoning giant creatures like spiders or undead is strange. I wish at least a player would summon undead in public and the other good PCs would kill the undead and the player even...... however they ignore it and that IMO is horribly OOC. |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 05:13 PM |
I've seen some very IC (Bad) reactions to my character's evil-ish actions on Vives. So I honestly don't think that's a problem.
However, I would ask that you think about what you're saying. You're essentially saying that summoning an undead is a go-ahead for PvP. Which is just -silly-. Good PCs should react. Should be disgusted, appauled, ETC. But not just wade in with the smiting! That's boring! It's not RP, it's hack n slash! RP is when the Bad Guys and the Good Guys talk for two hours before a sword is even drawn or a spell cast.
KB had very good good/evil face offs -because- it was mostly no PvP. People had to argue and use more than the F1-12 and the Right-Click-Attack options to solve problems. Like a long conversation between the Cleric of Shar and the N-G mage, where both had a chance to see the depth of each others characters. That they end up fighting to the death is moot, because there was RP to come out of it, which wouldn't have happened if Cleric had made an undead and every PC had gone "Oh NO!" And charged.
And let's be honest, if players don't get along, it's not fun. Having other PCs ignore yours may be oh so wonderfully IC, but it -isn't- enjoyable.
All IMHO, as usual
Feel free to ignore this post
-Barnas |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 05:41 PM |
Well, we all know what event/people your post is about, so think about it. Would you really expect a two-hour philosophical gab-session from a fighter? Educated people in RL know better than to stand around on street corners taunting laborers. Laborers have never heard of Robert's Rules of Order; their answers tend to be delivered with their fists.
I don't think the duration of monologues is any better criteria for role-playing than numbers of areas is for a module. I think listening to a monologue as a prelude to PvP is about the worst possible combination of things I could spend my time on. |
Dieties preserve us from the evil chaotics named Lag, Crash, and Server Reset.
PCs: Loli Dankirk (Ftr 18/Brd 8.5 @ 1777 hrs) left Vives for Origins; Gnora Gnombody (Sor 5 @ 54 hrs) and Amanda Stark (Wiz 3 @ ~10 hrs) left Vives for Feline Providence. |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 05:51 PM |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 07:03 PM |
"However, I would ask that you think about what you're saying. You're essentially saying that summoning an undead is a go-ahead for PvP. Which is just -silly-. Good PCs should react. Should be disgusted, appauled, ETC. But not just wade in with the smiting! That's boring! It's not RP, it's hack n slash! RP is when the Bad Guys and the Good Guys talk for two hours before a sword is even drawn or a spell cast."
I don't understand the idea that a good character who is disgusted by an undead creature (say in Midor a 'Holy City' of sorts) killing that creatures "It's not RP, it's hack n slash!"
I can only disagree with the concept that a good character capable of killing an undead creature and not doing so is somehow good RPing. You might have more conversation and RPing time if you when a "Cleric had made an undead and every PC [does not go] "Oh NO!" And charge" but most of the time it is not better roleplaying--I would even suggest >often< it is well written bad (in the way of being unrealistic) roleplay. You can't PvP without permission and that is a fact but I am not suggesting that is what people do, killing a summoned creature is not PvP. I suppose a lot of this has to do with different opinions of what makes good RPing. I personally think often it is viewed that more description and longer conversations automatically mean beter roleplaying--despite if they are realistic to the emotions a realistic persona would have.
I would argue when a bad guy summons an undead or kills someone and " the Bad Guys and the Good Guys talk for two hours before a sword is even drawn or a spell cast" that while that is RPing it is not nessacaraly (it can be depending on circumstance) good RP--often it is very bad RPing.
IMHO
PS...."I don't think the duration of monologues is any better criteria for role-playing than numbers of areas is for a module." ... agreed. |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 09:44 PM |
I've, to disagree with some of your comments here Gib. I dont feel people should be lectured on what is good rp, what is bad rp for everyones skill's differ and how can they learn and grow if people are discourageing there styles of play. However in saying this and yes this is a bit of a contradiction on my part I feel if you consider in real life that if people are fighting or argueing a good majority of the time people will walk by wont stop to ask questions or wont care. Needless to say, the same can be said for a fight regardless of the type of person you are some just stand in awe not sure what to do. at a loss some get help and some interviene, while a good few stand there or avoid the situation no doubt for safty reasons. I however do think your correct a good char might be a appauled and be frightend not all chars are overly brave or necessarly blind to the dangers.
However I must say I dont like the stero type or the basic box you put people in aka good/evil black / white ying/ yang , you did fail to mention neautral aligned chars which can vary from various sides of the spectrum. The way I look at it no player should be fully safe anywhere. Be it gods or a hord of monsters or a random mugger on the street. Which can make for some interesting rp I'm not saying I approve of Pvp. Though, I dont condone it ether, however I do feel in a matter of a paladin attacking a persons summon. It can be looked at from many angles, though theres no wrong or right way to rp it. Alot of roleplaying is simply improvision, I mean theres so many examples I could use here a summoner try's to desperately escape so he or she summons a boar to distract its foe while it sneaks away or a necromancer summons some zombies to do battle with a hero or intimdate a foe I mean theres so many situations and un acounted variables that I suggest just deal with it happens when it happens but whats most important is to have fun.
Also the way I look at familars or certain summon's are quite similar to your own pet if someone came up to your dog or cat and beat it with a pipe or kicked it what would you do in a realistic fashion?
As for raceism in game i'm not for it not against it although the dm's might want to take into an account if there's a war between races there might be some bitterness between the two and some misconceptions and prejudices but i'm not sure of the full extent of how the vives history will fan out in the long run. |
"...Another day passes and I slip further from reality..." |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 09:57 PM |
Well, I think racism is fine IG, and provides a lot of RP opportunites. We are playing in a fantasy world, in a time when racism would likely be very common. So long as it's kept strictly IC I don't see anything wrong with it at all, in fact, I encourage people to give their characters personalites, so long as its within the bounds previously stated in other threads.
Also, PvP is not forbidden, it's discouraged. You can PvP if you need to for RP reasons, but you really need to have a valid RP buildup to it. |
Question Authority! |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 06 Oct 2003 09:59 PM |
| Nicely said Landru :) |
"...Another day passes and I slip further from reality..." |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 03:13 AM |
OK... Rascism for no reason? You under estimate my (As a good friend would say) Mad Skillz. You can have a file I typed up on an old 386 laptop I have stashed away in my room before I even saw your thoughts on this. But you're going to want something so you can read a .wps format. I hope SOMEBODY out there has something along those lines! Just PM me with your e-mail address if ya want the file, you'll get it from either Politbyuro@AOL.com, or more likely, my school address at HillenbrandG@crcs.k12.ny.us
It's about 3 pages long, and it gives each races perspective. |
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Basic Rascisms
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 05:41 AM |
I -strongly- disagree with any notion that fighting is better than talking.
At -no- point did I say monologue. A conversation between 2 characters is fun. More fun if they disagree, even.
But, to be honest, I seem to end up disagreeing with various people here on every single issue relating to playing a low end N or E character.
All I'm going to say is this.
If I want to play on a server where people charge at my character every time they do anything, I'll go on a PvP server.
There is -nothing- better than conversation on a RP server. That's the basic of RP. The advancement and relationships between characters. For better or for worse.
I also don't say that the length of a convo makes good RP, but I think that a convo is better than a fight.
Gah. I'll agree to disagree. |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 08:00 AM |
The Humans Point of View:
Humans die young, and are pitied by most races. However, not the half-lings. At one point in the history of Vives, Humans needed to expand for themselves. They found pleasing land, and murdered every half-ling in it. After that, they erased any signs of their existance by destroying all buildings and building over them. Now, in the place of Doctzi, is Paws.
After that, half-lings eventually found out. They staged raids into Paws to try and take back their rightful land. Each time, they failed. They succeeded in killing some humans, but mainly, they were women and children.
Even today, there is no love lost between humans and half-lings.
However, humans are great friends with half-orcs. This is because they sympathise with each other, and they help each other in times of need. At one point, the humans sent an army into Yetti land to save a half-orc warlord. The half-orcs, in return, helped lead a suprise attack on a half-ling city known as Doctzi.
Half-Orcs Point of View
Half-Orcs are great enemies of elves. They have many blood feuds still going on today. Many events led to this, however, a few stand out.
One of which is from a time when the gods chose sides more fervently. The elves were constantly bragging about their beauty and shaming the half-orcs ignoble roots. So the half-orcs would mangle elves. This led to an elven strike into a half-orc shrine. They destroyed it. In retaliation, the half-orcs kidnapped an elven prince, by the name of Ki'het, and impaled his corpse upon a spear and left it at the edge of elven lands.
After that, the elves poisoned a shipment of food from the humans to the half-orcen city. It killed scores of people, and they were quickly found out. The half-orcs, in return, slaughtered every animal within eyesight of the elves, and launched the corpses into the walls of their great city.
These two races still plot against each other.
On the flip side of the coin, the half-orcs are great pals with the humans, for who else came quickly enough to save the great warlord, Friwar? Friwar, who led them to victories within their lands, and outside.
Also, the humans do not shun and shame them on sight. They were the first to welcome them.
The Elven Point of View:
One of the great enemies of the elves, are, naturally, the half-elves. Mainly despised for their impure blood, they are simply not "right". There are many rumors that are circulated amoung the elves about them. One of which is by embracing a half-elf leads to a decrease in intelligence. Another is that to walk upon the same side of the road as one willingly, you shall surely lower yourself in the eyes of your diety.
The half-orcs are another funnel with which to put their hatred in. They murdered a great leader of the elves that brought peace to the lands of the elves, rooted out evil, and brought wealth into the kingdom.
The elves then retaliated with poison, hoping to slay a goodly number of half-orcs, and it went back and forth from there.
Lastly, the elves are icey and distant to the dwarves. They know not why, but the dwarves always have likewise to them.
The elves are great allies to half-lings. This is because the half-lings are respectful towards the elves and are very kind. Also, they tend to cut deals with the elves on trading. This is because the elves were guides for the half-lings through the woods when they went to attack various places. Whenever the half-lings needed some sort of aid, the elves were there to give it.
Half-Elvin Point of View:
The half-elves have never been friendly to the elves. Mainly because the elves shun them and dang them because of their fate, the half-elves, in retaliation, have a few habits towards the elvin. One of which is to spit at them, another is to scratch the bridge of your nose with your index finger. These are both highly insulting, though nobody knows where the second origonated from.
However, they have always been friendly to the dwarves. They made many fine weapons and suits of armor for them, but the half-elves don't know exactly why. There was no specific event that made it obvious.
Dwarvin Point of View:
The dwarves aren't known for their enemies. They are for the most part good natured people, especially when they get an ale or two into themselves. However, there is some ancient belief that keeps dwarves from being friendly to elves. For some reason, the dwarves and elves just don't like each other. That's just the way it's always been, and the way it always will be. It's almost as if it were a religion...
However, the dwarves share enemies with the half-elves. They both do not like the elvin people. So, the dwarves help make weapons and armor for the half-elves, and they aid in their own way to remove elves from the population.
Half-ling Point of View:
The half-lings and the humans have always hated each other. The humans steal their lands, then kill them for trying to take them back. Then, they insult the half-lings further by destroying all their beautiful buildings. For that, the half-lings have staged many strikes into Paws and other lands to take back the lands of their ancestors.
The half-lings cut deals with the elves when it comes to buisness. Also, the half-lings are very respectful to the elves and their ways. This is because the elves would guide them through the woods and dangerous lands when strikes were being made. Whenever the half-lings needed help, the elves were there to give it.
Tasra Amalayax
((OK, here it is... It opens up on my POE computer and not my home one)) |
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Fighting vs Talking
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 08:16 AM |
If I want to play on a server where people charge at my character every time they do anything, I'll go on a PvP server.
well.. if everything your chars end up in a fight, you might wanna look at your chars..
I dont know many ppl that encourage others to charge at them by doing certain things,
(tho i know some =p ) and i guess maybe the problem is in your chars.
i am not saying you play your chars wrong, not at all! i am saying that there are ppl that doesnt really notice what's going on around them and sometimes push their ideas without thinking what others will do,
charging at others is highly possible... i.e. i dont think a paladin would stay still when someone near him - which is known to be evil - would summon a skeleton.
but, maybe the 'problem' is really at the other chars, and you dont really have anything to do against it..
not saying your fault, or your chars' fault.. but that could be. (especially as most of your chars arent goodie two shoes )
There is -nothing- better than conversation on a RP server. That's the basic of RP. The advancement and relationships between characters. For better or for worse.
I also don't say that the length of a convo makes good RP, but I think that a convo is better than a fight.
ok, about the second part.. i would agree to the 'I lso dont say the length of a convo makes good RP' that is something i completely aware of and accept,
-but-!!
the other parts!
I think people are having a bit of problem or having other definitions of RP then me...
Role Play - to play a certain character, thro that char eyes, thinking as the char, acting as the char etc etc..
if your chars solve everything by talking.. allright.. if your char solve everything by fighting allright - just be sure ooc that she wont try to solve the NPC as well =p
some ppl might or think, that role play is taking part in conversations acting as the char..
well IMO and the way I play that is -not- RP!
allright conversations are all nice and fun, but when a char is suposed to go punch someone (cuz that is the chars' character [ =P ] ) you go punch him! you dont stand and start a conversation..
so allright.. mabe someone's chars are goodie two shoes and wont attack or physicly hurt other chars, but as a char you are suposed to know these kind of people that are agressive -are- around and most chars/ppl will control their tounge better near these ppl...
Dens |
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Fighting vs Talking
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 08:52 AM |
I suppose I'm doing a really chronic job of explaining myself and my ideas.
I'm not saying I don't want to see conflict between players or anything, but I honestly prefer to have a conversation than just to fight. The best solution to a problem, IMHO, is not d20+DEXMOD.
I'm currently taking Fri'el down a path that will lead to her having less conflicts. She's mellowing, so to speak.
However:
I'm coming to accept that I've pissed a lot of people on this server off, and for that I apologise. Likewise, I've had my character do a very foolish thing here, and likewise, for that I apologise. I also wish to apologise to anyone I've annoyed or offended in how I've played my characters. I've just been trying to RP as well as I can and enjoy it. Sorry if I'm not good enough at it for you.
-Apologies, Barnas |
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Re: Fighting vs Talking
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 09:54 AM |
I kinda expected this post would be a busy one. In anycase I want to point out my earlier post is a response post to another post that was limiting roleplay in one way, and was simply trying to point out a situation where playing in a different manner was valid--not more valid simply valid. Many posts here have a tone of 'my way or the highway' which I think is very very dangerous. We have to accept that roleplaying is complicated, and many viewpoints are valid and can be effective:
Talking is not always better RPing than fighting.
Fighting is not always better RPing than talking.
Good character's actions are not always better RPing than evil character's actions.
Evil character's actions are not always better RPing than good character's actions.
Talkative characters are not always better RPed than quiet characters.
The best RPing server I ever played on (yes, it was as good or better than this server once) as it grew larger suffered from RPing elitism in which certain long term players were very quick to label as players as bad roleplayers--and with very narrow definitions. If your character was the silent type, you were labeled a bad RPer. If your cvharacter attacked even when provoked, you were labeled a bad RPer. If you evil character even acted in the slightest way distant or unfriendly you were labeled a bad RPer. This server is no longer the great RPing server it once was.
I am spotting hints of the begining of this here, with players feeling that somehow they are invalidated by their RPing choices. I am not saying there is not good and bad RPing, I am a self-defined RPing elitist. I am just saying to be careful before you label omeone to quickly. |
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Re: Fighting vs Talking
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 10:43 AM |
well, that's another thing i was trying to say.
tho maybe it wasnt really clear from what i said..
I define RP as 'playing the char' i think the only way to get bad RP is to .. well.. just not play the char..
beside going ooc - and a word about going ooc :
IMO, going ooc while talking IC is a nono.. I dont want to see any players going "hey neat.. how many lvls till you can use this?" and stuff like this that a terribly annoying and pretty confusing IG
- which is something i -never- saw on vives!!!
*cheers* *cheers* *cheers*
going ooc with brackets (as long as it is not every two sec or something) is pretty allright, and i wont reduce xps as some ppl might.
but well that aint the point..
IMO the only one who know his char for ~100% (probably way less then 100%) is the player..
so i dont think someone got the right to judge other chars acts while he doesnt know the char,
or while he doesnt know the motives - i mean.. if someone punched ya, you should know why he did it before shouting "Pker Pker"
^---- again something i didnt see in vives! *cheers*
so.. all i'm mumbling about..
meant to say.. that 'bad' RP is or by not playing the char as that char should be played (hard to determine but i am pretty sure that midoran's cleric wont go and slay poor old beggers that did nothing to him) and not by the way the char is solving conflicts..
Dens |
You are more than welcome to ignore my spelling mistakes =p |
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Re: Fighting vs Talking
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 11:07 AM |
Another clarification: At no point did I intend to suggest that the way I like to RP is in -any- way -better- than any other RP style.
Merely that I -myself-, IMHO, find talking a more enjoyable part of RP than confrontation/violence.
Apologies for giving that impression. I'll shut up now, and confine myself to spamming my writing thread.
-Barnas |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 11:58 AM |
I -strongly- disagree with any notion that fighting is better than talking.
At -no- point did I say monologue. A conversation between 2 characters is fun. More fun if they disagree, even.
But, to be honest, I seem to end up disagreeing with various people here on every single issue relating to playing a low end N or E character.
All I'm going to say is this.
If I want to play on a server where people charge at my character every time they do anything, I'll go on a PvP server.
There is -nothing- better than conversation on a RP server. That's the basic of RP. The advancement and relationships between characters. For better or for worse.
I also don't say that the length of a convo makes good RP, but I think that a convo is better than a fight.
Gah. I'll agree to disagree.
I have no desire whatsoever to fight with other characters. I don't like PvP. I don't like to have to be forced to it by players setting up confrontations.
I don't enjoy spending two hours listening to someone hand verbal trash out to my character, and it's not IC for her to stand around and listen to it. Unlike your character, mine is not masochistic. Any time I have had Loli respond verbally to those two characters, and we know which two I am talking about, her responses were totally ignored and the diatribe continued with the same things said as were said the RL day before, and the RL day before that. It might as well be a monologue as far as any actual intertaction.
I have had perfectly good exchanges between Loli and other characters, even characters run by players with whom she has bad relations with other characters of theirs, or with whom my other character has bad relations. The same is true of my other character and the two characters in question. She held a perfectly good conversation with them, and had she been the one to encounter the scene in Midor she would simply have fled. That would have been IC for her. Neither of my characters has a morbid fascination with watching people do cruel and perverse acts, let alone discussing the details.
At any rate, this is off-topic of the thread.
Last evening I saw some nice roles being played to heighten the racial/class tensions. I also saw some probable RL-personality conflicts ending up in the same place, LOL. So I don't think we have to script the conflicts ahead of time. I think they will appear naturally. |
Dieties preserve us from the evil chaotics named Lag, Crash, and Server Reset.
PCs: Loli Dankirk (Ftr 18/Brd 8.5 @ 1777 hrs) left Vives for Origins; Gnora Gnombody (Sor 5 @ 54 hrs) and Amanda Stark (Wiz 3 @ ~10 hrs) left Vives for Feline Providence. |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 12:10 PM |
Good God people! Did ANYONE read my ideas on how to do the racisms?! I busted my arse on that, and I don't see a single coment! What's up with that?! And it is possible for these to happen anyways, but I don't see it often, if at all. The only time I've seen it is when I've done it myself with Kaiser.
So are people in agreement with me? Because I don't even think I've gotten a mainstream comment on whether there should be a general sert of racisms at all! If you want them, say so. If you like my idea on how to do them, say so! Don't leave me in the dark like this! |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 12:42 PM |
Well Tasra, did you read the vives PHB? It already has some slight racisms in there, and some blatant inconsistencies with yours. For instance the Half-Orcs do not get along with humans, as humans are the ones who almost hunted them to extinction. Humans, along with Midoran's teachings, do not get along too well with the demi-human races. Please read over the PHB, and besides we ARE looking into your opinions, soon there will be some basic overviews and histories to help back up fueds/racial identities/etc for the races and race interaction within Vives .
~Fenarisk |
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Re: Basic Rascisms
Posted: 07 Oct 2003 01:25 PM |
| Hmmm... Actually, I have no clue what some of your acronyms mean. Like IMO, IMHO, PHB... Jeez, I just wing it for the most part. And besides, EVERY server has half-orcs hating humans and vice versa. Let us spread our creative wings and shed the cloaks of conformity! Let us be new! Unique! And bow down and worship the all powerful TASRA!!! (They're all optional except the last one :P) |
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