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Writers' Meeting: Port Royale. Sunday 12th Oct.
Posted: 10 Oct 2003 03:49 AM
With certain recent history of humans being available, and a skeleton of Port Royale's history being established, we'd like to invite everybody who are interested in fully fleshing out Port Royale - past and current - and its colourful characters within this vibrant Northern City to come at an IRC meeting on Sunday, 12th October 2003, 14:00 PST / 17:00 EST / 22:00 GMT.

I'll shortly be providing a synopsis, as well as what we'd like to see later. This is part of an effort expecting to detail Port Royale on both the literature as well as game level over the next two week'ish.

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Re: Writers' Meeting: Port Royale. Sunday 12th Oct.
Posted: 10 Oct 2003 04:30 AM
Don't forget the League of Apothecaries, who try to battle all newly released epidemics in this 'port to(and from) the world' ;-)




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Re: Writers' Meeting: Port Royale. Sunday 12th Oct.
Posted: 10 Oct 2003 06:35 AM
I got a party around 23:00 gmt =/

but i guess i can come in the middle ;)

so i will come to the meeting ^^

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Re: Writers' Meeting: Port Royale. Sunday 12th Oct.
Posted: 10 Oct 2003 07:09 AM
I would come, as I'd be interested in helping out a bit in the writing department if you wanted me to. However, I'm away for the weekend however, so I can't attend.
Meh. Stupid RL always getting in the way of RP :P
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Re: Writers' Meeting: Port Royale. Sunday 12th Oct.
Posted: 10 Oct 2003 07:35 AM
I should be able to make it. :)

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Re: Writers' Meeting: Port Royale. Sunday 12th Oct.
Posted: 10 Oct 2003 01:16 PM
I'll be there. (Gosh, this sounds like a commercial.Wink)
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Re: Writers' Meeting: Port Royale. Sunday 12th Oct.
Posted: 10 Oct 2003 10:21 PM
Oh... 8am..Sad I -might- make it.

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Re: Writers' Meeting: Port Royale. Sunday 12th Oct.
Posted: 12 Oct 2003 08:00 PM
Here's the log as I know it...



<Ari> <Ari> Port Royale on its own have been a small human settlement throughout history.
<Ari> <Ari> Plagued by natural and artifical calamities (e.g., beasts / conflicts with sentient races), however, it remains of little
historical importance.
<Ari> <Ari> Until the plague of Midor at c.a. 800 common-time,
<Ari> <Ari> When refugees of ability arrived in droves
<Ari> <Catcher> (though it wasn't Midor then)
<Ari> <Bentalious> To escape the plague
<Ari> <Ari> (Yes, it was then Aristi)
<Ari> <Ari> (where am I?)
<Ari> <Ari> When refugees of ability arrived in droves to escape the plague.
<Ari> <Bentalious> ;)
<Ari> <Catcher> Question: Why did the refugees go there? And what was it called then?
<Ari> <Catcher> Question: Why did the refugees go there? And what was it called then?
<Ari> <Ari> Even then, the story is more one of struggle amongst themselves as well as the natural sources that have always been haunting
them;
<Ari> <Ari> 14No answer, Catcher.
<Ari> <Catcher> OK, keep going.
<Ari> * JadeNight listens
<Ari> <Ari> Aquinas, then a young elf of leadership and charisma, with her band of companions (think adventurers)
<Ari> <Ari> Persuade/convinced/compel/lead by example an initiative to form a structure that establishes some order
<Ari> <Ari> This forms the nucleus of a then rapidly expanding city which is now known as Port Royale
<Ari> <Catcher> One thing that hasn't been established is what the political landscape looked like pre-Plague.
<Ari> <Catcher> Ari: Don't think that will be needed, but thanks.
<Ari> <Catcher> Was Aristi the capitol of a human Empire, a multi-racial empire, or just a big Human city-state. (or something else)?
<Ari> <Ari> I'm seeing it as a city-state
<Ari> <Ari> And that most of Vives is more or less isolated
<Ari> <Ari> Let me back up to even prior to PR then.
<Ari> <Ari> Vives the setting, geographically, is envisioned to be an island approximately the size of Britain.
<Ari> <Ari> (with all those weird creatures to match =P )
<Ari> <Ari> (that was for Ara =D )
<Ari> <Ara-updating> grr
<Ari> <Ari> Because of all the wild creatures, the natural state of things is nasty and brutish; civilization is only in clusters
<Ari> <Ari> (id est, lack of a central control structure)
<Ari> <Ari> Most 'civilizations' are busy tending to their own immediate needs,
<Ari> <Bentalious> Easy pickins for pirates and their ilk. ;)
<Ari> <Ari> And hence don't quite bother to invade / compel into submission other ppl
<Ari> <Ari> 'Conquests' are more a new thing beginning with the Midoran initiatives
<Ari> <Ari> For the reason of expanding their religious influence.
<Ari> <Ari> 14I -think- I'm done.

Session Start: Sun Oct 12 16:58:37 2003
Session Ident: #viveswriters
* Now talking in #viveswriters
<Colorful-Facepaints> 14duh
* Colorful-Facepaints is now known as Ari
<Phoenix_Dias> sorry aobut that Ari
<Ari> *grumbles* someone else send him the log (since I've been kicked)
<Ari> (and someone save and log this too!)
<Catcher> That might explain 1: How she and her friends had any influence on the budding PR and 2: why they landed on this
otherwise insignificant point.
<Ari> 14What might?
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<PhoenixF|IG> <Catcher> What if Aq. shows up with some new boats of a design never seen before during the Plague?
<Catcher> Sorry, if Aq. shows up with boats that can navigate the treacherous ocean waters around Vives.
<Catcher> (Thanks, PhoenixF)
<Bentalious> But PR could still have pirate vessels from far off lands, right? :-D
* Bentalious likes dem pirates
<Ari> (it doesn't need to be her who have access to the boat...)
<Ari> 14Ben: You saw Capn' Ara and Percy Parrot yet? =P
<Bentalious> That's true. The refugees would have escaped by any means necessary.
<Catcher> The far-off part I'm not sure. Mostly what's been said assumes an isolated island, but I tend to be in favor of some
far-off lands.
<Bentalious> No I haven't Ari. It's in PR?
<Ari> 14Ben: That's another one for Ara =P
<Bentalious> oh ok lol
<Ari> I didn't get what you said, Catcher.
<Catcher> Which one?
<Ari> 3"Mostly what's been said assumes an isolated island, but I tend to be in favor of some far-off lands."
* Bentalious has left #viveswriters
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<Ara-updating> don't ya mean Cap'n Dandy? :P
<Catcher> Just the impression I've gotten is that there are no thoughts to lands other than Vives.
<Ari> 14Ara is dandy? =P
<Ara-updating> no other lands exist though no
<Ara-updating> ?
<Ara-updating> (at least in the minds of the inhabitants and "history-makers")
<Bentalious> 14Aye, that's why they invented portals. hee-hee >:)
<Ari> 14How is that relevant directly to PR tho, Chair?
<Ara-updating> I aqm adding in some islands dotted about the place though
* Ara-updating is now known as Sofa
<Catcher> Back to the matter at hand, can someone else suggest why refugees might land in large enough numbers at a previously
unimportant, far-flung site?
* Sofa slaps chair about a bit with his two seater cushions _5
* Sofa is now known as Arathon
<Ari> Perhaps it's just the currents and such which favors the current site of PR?
<Phoenix_Dias> good fishing site ?
<Arathon> yep
<Arathon> natural resources
<Arathon> plus not inhabited by too many nasty beasties
<Bentalious> Right and maybe PR was the closest place not effected by the plague?
<Catcher> But why didn't it do so before? Something has to change, particullarly if humans have been around for thousands of
years previous.
<Arathon> usual sorta crap basically
<Ari> 14<Catcher> But why didn't it do so before? - what does the pronoun 'it' stand for?
<Catcher> Ben: PR is about 800 miles or more even if you can across the Inland Sea.
<Bentalious> Or maybe even they were running out of food and fresh water and HAD to land at PR. Perhaps even divine
intervention had a hand in it. ;)
<Catcher> it = PR or the PR site.
<Ari> Well, a priori there's no incentive to move around for most people
<Phoenix_Dias> the plague being a good incentive
<Ari> Why risk your life on the oceans when you don't need to?
<Phoenix_Dias> indeed, very good point
<Arathon> I'd go for simple natural resources...... they were fishermen and they were good waters or something
<Arathon> maybe.....
<Phoenix_Dias> well why not a combination of both ?
<Arathon> "something" "guided" them there
<Ari> 14The reason can be multi-folded - but it doesn't directly impact on the fact that because of the plague, hordes of
refugees arrived at where PR is, right?
<Catcher> What I mean is, if PR is a site for ANY human/demi-human habitation, then it has to either be good from the start and
some sort of city was there before the refugees, or something changed because following the seacoast from Midor to PR gives a
whole bunch of better, closer landing sites than PR.
<Arathon> caught up in a mealstrom or storm then?
<Arathon> *maelstrom
<Bentalious> Then divine intervention may indeed have a played a significant role.
<Catcher> OK, try this, what was there BEFORE the refugees and why?
<Bentalious> 14hmmm...we need a sea deity. ;)
<Ari> Even though PR is a site for ANY humanoid habitation, they're also plagued by a large number of factors that prevent its
growth - hostile beasts (I referred to as 'natural and artificial calamities')
<Arathon> maybe it was once flooded
<Arathon> but the storm created a plain
<Arathon> which was abundant with rich soils and stuff
<Catcher> BTW, ARIa, human history argues against a priori. Population pressures have forced multiple, massive human migrations.
<Arathon> so they all thought it'd be good farming land or somesuch
<Ari> And these 'calamities' are unconquerable until (1) enough man-forces that are (2) united come together
<Ari> The plague provided (1), and Aq. provides (2)
* Alosynth|Vives is now known as Alosynth|AFK
<Ari> (does that sounds plausible?)
<Bentalious> I thnk any who survived the journey to PR are going to be very hardy and so pretty well self-suficient.
<Catcher> We're getting there, but I still think we need to have some sort of reason for the refugees to go There instead of
Easier. Maybe a bit of legend?
<Bentalious> Just the fact that they even escaped the sudden and deadly plague shows they possessed a great constitution.
* Catcher is now known as Catcher-AFKish
<Arathon> legend sounds cool catcher
<Arathon> of rich mines or something maybe
<PhoenixF|IG> Hmm...
<PhoenixF|IG> Maybe, as the refugees fled on their boats, they were guided by something.
<Phoenix_Dias> would an avatar be too much ?
<Arathon> siren perhaps
<PhoenixF|IG> As someone said earlier; some supernatural storm led them to Port Royale.
<Arathon> sirines :)
<PhoenixF|IG> Or supernatural being :)
<Arathon> the men heard about these beautiful women..... and so on hehe
<PhoenixF|IG> :P
<Ari> (What supern
<Ari> duh
<Ari> lol
<Ari> <Arathon> the men heard about these beautiful women..... and so on hehe
<PhoenixF|IG> Someway in that they were 'led' to their chosen destination by 'x' force...
<Bentalious> How about a legend of a giant sea creature with tentacles that grasped the vessels and tossed them towards PR. lol
<Ari> rofl
* Catcher-AFKish is now known as Catcher
<Phoenix_Dias> lol
<Arathon> I like the idea of Sirines being 2involved" though
<Catcher> Actually, that's where I was thinking of bringing Aq. in
<Ari> 14Never mind Ara, he likes any ideas that involve sirines/nymphs/attractive female-looking things in general =P
<Arathon> ?
<Bentalious> lol
<Arathon> hey I'm only human :P
<Phoenix_Dias> hehehe
<Arathon> I appreciate beauty *shrugs*
<Arathon> especially beautiful, big, bouncing br......
* Phoenix_Dias pats Ara ;)
<Arathon> erm....
<Bentalious> uh-huh
<Arathon> nm :)
<Ari> Catcher: Go on?
<Catcher> The legends might only be vague fables, but Aq. could offer to lead a group of refugees there.
<Arathon> sorry :/
<Ari> Catcher: Go on...
<Arathon> she's half-elven right?
<Ari> (full elven)
<Arathon> maybe she took them there for selfish reasons
<Ari> (mandated by the fact that she's still alive)
<Arathon> to find her human parent or somesuch?
<Arathon> (oops I made her half-elven in the toolset :P)
<Catcher> That gives her an in with the refugees when they get to the future PR, so Aq. has a bit of an army at her back.
<Arathon> but she didn't tell them the true reason etc
<Bentalious> She's like 800 years old right? Mid life?
<Catcher> Ara: Her motivations we're holding off on right now, though Ben has some ides.
<Ari> So catcher is a leader of the voyeur, instead of being a leader after arriving at PR?
<Ari> oops
<Ari> 14Freudian slip
<Arathon> lol
<Bentalious> 14hee-hee
<Ari> So Aq is a leader of the voyage, instead of being a leader after arriving at PR?
<Catcher> That's OK, I can translate sick ramblings ;-D
<Phoenix_Dias> lol
<Catcher> Just a thought.
<Phoenix_Dias> sounds also logical why she is still leader
<Phoenix_Dias> if she led them during the move.... the more reason to keep her as one
<Bentalious> 14I think Aq should just be a pupet leader though, with her "companions" pulling the strings. She's just there
'cause she talks sweet and looks nice. heh
<Catcher> The one thing I've been wrestling about with PR being an "offshoot" of Midor is how it becomes the free-wheelking
port while Midor doesn't.
<Catcher> Ben: Nothing says she isn't. That's just how the story will be told. ;-)
<Ari> I'm seeing PR currently as being similar to Aristi
<Ari> It's Midor that have undergone a change, not PR
<Bentalious> PR can be a free trade area and to have free trade, you have to...bend the rules a bit. ;)
<Ari> (ok, given the fact that PR is established by refugees from Midor, led by Aq...)
<Ari> (where do we go now, Chair?)
<Arathon> Ben: that;s how I envisaged her ')
<Bentalious> cool
<Ari> 14*coughs*
<Catcher> OK. We have Aq. and say, 900 survivors of Aristi arriving at the future site of PR. It was an old city of an ancient
empire but has been abandonded to the point of a fishing village.
<Arathon> almost childlike and one who hates politics etc
<Arathon> oki catcher
<Ari> Ok
<Catcher> It's beset by what? What's the villan in our piece? Orcs? Gnolls? Halflings?
<Arathon> maybe the sirine's lured all the inhabitants to their deaths :)
<Arathon> can we have that?
<Phoenix_Dias> you and sirines... :p
<Arathon> thus it was empty and a ghost town when they arrived
<Arathon> :P
<Ari> 14Ara is perhaps the only one here who knows that Aquinas was designed very much with Aria in mind =P
<Arathon> heehee
<Bentalious> awww that's sweet ;)
<Catcher> Ara: Do you know what a castrati is?
<Arathon> (yup that's why I gave her a nice pair of erm..... a nice erm.... frontage in the toolset :P)
<Arathon> something very painful? :P
<Ari> Anyways. I was thinking that catcher's argument is nice because it ties in somewhat with Lyneaum
<PhoenixF|IG> Weren't they men who had their testicles cut off to preserve their voice, Catcher? ;)
<PhoenixF|IG> (I say men. Boys.)
<Catcher> Ding, ding PF :-)
<Phoenix_Dias> indeed
<Ari> You're suggesting us preserve Ara's euphonious voice?
<Ari> 14=P
<PhoenixF|IG> my biology teacher took sadistic pleasure in playing the last recorded castrati to the blokes in our class ;)
<Catcher> Don't know about Lynaeum much, but I'm glad it fits. Plus, any good port will have been settled at sometime in the
past.
<Bentalious> lol
<Ari> Ok, go on?
<PhoenixF|IG> Well, I've posted some stuff I needed to...I have to head to bed, as I got work in the morning :)
<Arathon> want to know about the history of lynaeum quickly?
<Ari> sure Ara
<Ari> Night P
<Arathon> ok.....
<Bentalious> Night Phoenix :)
<Arathon> there were these sirines.......
<Arathon> :P
<Bentalious> Oh gawd :p
* Phoenix_Dias slaps Ara with a bunch of sirines
<Arathon> well it was a place built upon the warrior's virtues
* PhoenixF|IG has quit IRC (Quit)
<Arathon> almost like a large gladiator school
<Catcher> Hmmm, seems we've got more than one good writer here. Who are the bad guys who are slowly exterminating our villagers?
<Ari> (of an old civilization?)
<Arathon> that sorta thing ;)
* Arathon is a feces writer :P
<Arathon> I just build stuff! :P
<Ari> Catcher: open to suggestions
<Ari> Or just non-sentient beasts?
<Bentalious> Maybe Aq's "companions" are weeding out the "undesirables" lol
* JadeNight makes a suggestion - Vampires and the temple in Port Royale is really a temple to the Syn. (shuts back up)
<Catcher> No. We need a persistent threat. Humans in decent numbers will wipe out local non-fantastic competition.
<Catcher> Jade: Vampires can be the biggies, but they need some grunts.
<Ari> (Jade: maybe that can be the drive for Maldovia...)
<Arathon> we still talking in the past here?
<Phoenix_Dias> charmed humans
<Bentalious> Maybe the spirits of those who lived on PR long before it became PR just don't like intruders?
<Ari> (i.e., maybe Maldovia can be found about similar times)
<Arathon> or present baddies?
<JadeNight> (Vampires live a long time! Perhaps they moved from Lyneceum to destory Maldovia )
<Catcher> Yes Ara. This would be the past but they could still be around.
* JadeNight is now known as Jade|AFK
<Arathon> maybe back then the portal to where the demons and devils lived was open
<Arathon> and they were the threat
<Arathon> but it was since closed
<Ari> (the portals were closed Zillion of years ago
<Arathon> (or something)
<Arathon> (not for much longer :P)
<Ari> ?
<Catcher> I'm afraid they would've extinguished our villagers long ago too.
<Ari> (because of the hakpaks?)
<Phoenix_Dias> k I'm logging the rest for I'm also off to bed. It's midnight here. Good night !
<Ari> Night Dias
<Arathon> erm because of something I'm bulding (not a plane btw)
<Bentalious> Night other Phoenix :)
<Arathon> night Dies :)
<Catcher> Night Phoenix
<Bentalious> That reminds me, I need the correct order the haks go in for the resource allocation, Ara. :p
<Ari> 14<Catcher> No. We need a persistent threat. Humans in decent numbers will wipe out local non-fantastic competition. -
There was never a large enough human population
<Bentalious> Oh ummm...purty please that is. :-D
<Arathon> as long as the vives one is highest priority you should be good to go
<Bentalious> Nope :(
<Bentalious> There's a conflict of some sort with the .2das I think.
<Arathon> ok..... we'll sort something out for you over the next couple of days Ben
<Bentalious> thanks
<Catcher> Yes, Ari, but we still have to explain the decline of the previous Great City.
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<Ari> Oh, not being creative, say a plague? ;)
<Ari> 14welcome
<Catcher> How about Gnolls? They're like hyenas, so a semi-tropical plain would fit them.
<Bentalious> A volcano. hee-hee >:)
<Arathon> Margrave caught that today btw :P
<Catcher> And they're both a significant and not overpowering threat.
<Arathon> there is a plague script in game somewhere
<Arathon> formians?
<Arathon> or something from the desert?
<Arathon> or maybe giants
<Arathon> giants would make sense
<Arathon> no?
<Merum|NFL> port royale is a port... the menace should come from the sea
<Catcher> Formians are extraplanar. Giants are typically sound in hillier/mountainous areas.
<Arathon> sirines!
<Arathon> :P
<Arathon> yuan ti?
<Bentalious> Possibly oversized ape-men? I'm thinking The Time Machine. heh
<Catcher> Got some sauguin hiding somewhere?
<Ari> 14brb
<Arathon> or lizard folk?
<Arathon> nope unfortunately to sanguin
<Merum|NFL> kraken
<Bentalious> lizard folk to enjoy a good human slaughtering and feasting.
<Bentalious> And they are ingenious hunters. Good at trapping humans offguard
<Arathon> banshee :P
<Arathon> we have banshee ;)
<Chief_Worg_skin_hunter> i hate that banshee
<Catcher> Merum: Like the demons/devils, too big.
<Arathon> hehe which one?
<Chief_Worg_skin_hunter> the one that killed gwindor and me!
<Bentalious> Maybe we should vote on this?
<Chief_Worg_skin_hunter> cause gwindor ran to dang slow!
<Arathon> lol ok
<Arathon> how about yuan ti though?
<Catcher> Ben: That's fine, but we need some candidates first. ;-)
<Chief_Worg_skin_hunter> ooooh ya!
<Arathon> they are organised and powerful enough no?
<Merum|NFL> they come from the sea?
<Bentalious> I say lizard folk, maybe a more cunning breed
<Arathon> I -think- so yeah
<Arathon> lemme check
<Catcher> Yuan-Ti? No, not from the sea.
<Merum|NFL> how about Lemore Lizardmen?
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> sharkmen?
<Arathon> ahhno
<Chief_Worg_skin_hunter> lol
<Arathon> underground
<Bentalious> sharkmen lol
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> or dolphin men
<Chief_Worg_skin_hunter> how bout rangers that cast harm?
<Merum|NFL> Land Sharks!
<Bentalious> Oh, Thundercats!
<Bentalious> Thundercats HO!!!
<Merum|NFL> well what do we have that is capable of both sea and air life?
<Bentalious> sorry -_-
<Chief_Worg_skin_hunter> night hags?
<Merum|NFL> oo oo I know
<Chief_Worg_skin_hunter> sea hags?
<Merum|NFL> how far can the sea traffic get from vives?
<Arathon> trolls?
<Merum|NFL> perhaps the threat could come from an undiscovered island off the coast
<Merum|NFL> which can later be "discovered" and subdued in an epic quest
<Catcher> How many Yuan-Ti options do we have?
<Arathon> not many
<Bentalious> I say lizard folk because they are cunning and human flesh eaters, plus they can handle air and sea. Maybe they
can ride some sort of flying creatures too.
<Arathon> yeah lizard folk might be best
<Arathon> or scrags/trolls
<Merum|NFL> they cal ride seagulls and make them feces on the citizens
<Ari> Sure lizard folks. We haven't seen them in-game yet right?
<Bentalious> lol
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> frog people?
<Merum|NFL> there are lizard men in the caves
<Merum|NFL> blackstone
<Arathon> lizard folk are in game aria :P
<Ari> 14BTW Kudos to Q, I'm loving how the frontpage of the website look now
<Arathon> we can move em easily enough if needs be though
<Arathon> blackstone is near PR too :P
<Merum|NFL> they don't necessarly need to be the same society of lilzard dudes
<Catcher> The point is: the Threat then needs to be an ongoing threat in the Present time.
<Ari> Ok, lizardmen then.
<Arathon> lizard folk then
<Catcher> Keeps PR contained from becoming an Empire of its' own.
<Bentalious> Make a custom lizard folk and call them something else, like maybe night scales or something. :p
<Arathon> DMs will have to lead the odd invasion then :P
<Ari> Ben: Yup... How about 'Catchers'?
<Ari> 14=)
<Bentalious> lol
<Merum|NFL> what? that could end up with us... killing people! we never do that!
<Catcher> "You can't HANDLE the Truth!" ;-)
<Bentalious> Maybe they're able to harness the wind's power and both soar and cast wind-like magic?
<Arathon> hehe
<Merum|NFL> easy there ben
<Merum|NFL> gettin a lil far fetched
<Bentalious> But they have an aversion to sunlight?
<Bentalious> hee-hee
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> merfolk?
<Arathon> merfolk might be cool if we had any or there were any haks out there
<Arathon> theyre good alignment thugh
<Merum|NFL> they cannot walk on lad though can they?
<Bentalious> Traditional merfolk ride giant sea horses though, don't they?
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> dont have to be
<Merum|NFL> yeah and the good part kinda queers the deal
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> your thinking in the terms of D&d
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> and fr
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> alo
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> remeber vives is trying to seperate its self from fr
<Ari> Okie okie... let's -assume- that lizzies are the baddies that make the old PR'ers unhappy..
<Bentalious> Right, so we should give creatures unique names then, no?
<Ari> How does that influence nowadays?
<Merum|NFL> perhaps PR was built upon their ancient land?
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> and alighnments
<Merum|NFL> ised to be swampy or somethin?
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<Arathon> maybe PR is built on a swamp ;)
<Merum|NFL> yeah
<Arathon> the humans built it on a swamp that belonged to the lizardfolk :)
<Catcher> Or maybe the desert to the East used to be they're land.
<Bentalious> Doesn't have to be Merum, because "supposedly" they won't be actual lizard folk, just look like them
<Merum|NFL> kind of ties the whole coastline thing together
<Arathon> yup
<Bentalious> oh n/m
<Merum|NFL> but the desert is essentially unpopulaed
<Arathon> and the desert could be dried out swamplands too
<Merum|NFL> they could originate in one of the ruins
<Ari> Anyways - can we pull it back to how this influence the current issues?
<Catcher> It is now ;-)
<Arathon> maybe lizardfolk once were the predominant race in vives
<Merum|NFL> and PR was once a territory or holy ground or some dang thing
<Chief_Worg_skin_hunter> we decide on the thwhat about a powerful water ele?
<Chief_Worg_skin_hunter> eh
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<Catcher> Indeed. So we have a lizardman-type Threat that the refugees, Aq., and her friends drive back.
<Bentalious> 14Stupid mouse. :p
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> isnt that going fr again ara
<Arathon> the desert and all over the shop used to be swamp inhabited by lizardfolk, then the sun dried some out making it
desert
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> with that hole lizard men thing and the first ones
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> which is also used in war hammer
<Arathon> and humans built PR on it too
<Arathon> so now they're kinda pissed off
<Arathon> I like it though hehe
<Catcher> With the discoveries remade in the Ruins allowing the Humans to retain the upper hand for 800 years.
<Ari> (huh?)
<Merum|NFL> ties in with the remnants of the previous cycle
<Merum|NFL> lizardmen survived too, but regained strength more slowly
<Merum|NFL> now their numbers are up and they want their land back
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> why not say this
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> they lost there empire
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> and are a broken people
* Arathon nods
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> and lost there culture
<Ari> Merum: the previous cycle is literally millions of years away
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> and basically are a bunch of savages
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> who refused to change or adapt
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> so there basically dieing off
<Merum|NFL> umm yeah but the "gods" survived it this long
<Arathon> maybe they were once peaceful..... (like indigenous population of the US - the Indians :P)
<Ari> (lizzies are not gods)
<Arathon> and humans destroyed them
<Arathon> and drove them from their lands
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> thats what
<Arathon> etc etc
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> i was aiming for ara
<Merum|NFL> evil human colonists
<Arathon> I like humans being baaaad folks ;)
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> somthing like the native americains
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> thus like i said
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> there culture dieing off
<Merum|NFL> me too... Humans should be bad
<Arathon> I kinda like it
<Bentalious> And a brave party of adventurers has to enter the "burried" city of Lizard Folkville or whatever, which is hidden
under the desert. They they must obliterate their species. >:)
<Jade|AFK> There are nice 'dragon head' helmets that could be used for the bad guys.
<Merum|NFL> their short lives make them short-sighted
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> are they bad or simply short lived?
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<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> i still wonder how the elves will play into this?
<Arathon> lizard folk being the equivalent of native americans and humans in PR etc being the bad whitefolk
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> i mean and the dwarves assumeing there older races then humans
<Merum|NFL> ferein is pretty far away
<Merum|NFL> I doubt they would care
<Bentalious> All in the name of "progress and peace" of course, Ara.WinkLOL!
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> is feriene going to be the only elven city?
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> or is there going to be more?
<Arathon> they were just prancing about singing when this went on and didn't notice ;)
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> like a small kingdom
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<Catcher> Let's calm down the whiteman/Native American talk. What ABOUT the Elves?
<Merum|NFL> screw the elves
<Arathon> you like that then or not Aria/catcher? :P
<Arathon> lol
<Bentalious> 14Just give the lizard folk (or as - I - like to call them, Night Scales) blankets coated with chiken pox. Done and
done. >:) Sorry, bad history there.
<Merum|NFL> yeah it's smallpox... get it right, ben
<Arathon> heh
<Bentalious> lol :p
<Catcher> Bad history already done by NWN noless. :-/
<Ari> (I have no idea what the connections with the elves are)
<Merum|NFL> chicken pox would just make them itchy and cranky
<Bentalious> LOL! True
<Fenarisk> you could always use the Slaad egg infection slant
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<Ari> (It's time to mute the channel and get back on topic)
<Arathon> can we agree first on something?
<Ari> Go on?
<Arathon> the whole lizardmen thing.... yes or no?
<Merum|NFL> yes
<Ari> yes
<Bentalious> Aye, but a unique name
<Catcher> Yes. Plus someone will need to do a bit of culture on them.
* Bentalious volunteers
<Arathon> so they were peaceful before the humans came and mucked it all up for them right?
<Ari> So conflict with lizzies are a recurring theme in PR. Is that correct?
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<Arathon> the humans were the oppressors like the whiteman to the native-americans ?
<Arathon> yup aria
<Catcher> Peaceful, maybe. Certainly not now.
<Bentalious> I like that scenario
<Arathon> yup catcher
<Arathon> now they're pissed off :D
<Ari> Ok. Let's see how this tie in to current events
<Arathon> I like a theme (if you hadn't guessed) where humans are the root of most problems in vives :P
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> can i just state one thing?
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> i think we need an agenda
<Arathon> NOT the other races/creatures ;)
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> what we have and dont
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> and what will and wont go
<Catcher> Now then: we have established the beginnings of PR. The wonders of the Ancient City help drive it quickly to the same
levels of Midor.
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> shouldnt the ruins be a bit more dangerous to get to
<Catcher> PR should have good relations with most if not all the PC races since they'll need to be an island-trading juggernaut.
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> and have all sorts of warnings of dangers about them?
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> basically being a place people dont go to
<Bentalious> But did PR get it's stature through trade, both moral and less then moral? I like the idea myself.
<Catcher> Alen: Now, definitely. Then: they probably explored the easier places.
<Bentalious> Oh, n/m Catcher already answered heh
<Catcher> I'll be AFK for a bit.
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<Wings> hello peeps
<Ari> (with it's beginnings established, let's talk about how it is currently?)
<Bentalious> 'ello
<Arathon> howdy :)
<Arathon> oki Aria
<Ari> I'd like to see PR as culturally distinct from Midor
<Arathon> yup
<Bentalious> Currently, religion and government are not as taught as they are in Midor.
<Ari> As some of you might have know, it's been seen as closer to a Renaissance continental city-state
<Bentalious> Things are a little "looser".
<Arathon> but a shithole at the same time..... kinda like venice :P
<Ari> (as opposed to a religious-fanatic Midor)
<Bentalious> lol
<Wings> lol
<Ari> 14I love Venice...
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> so aria will there be an interest in techonolgy then?
<Arathon> it's a dump :)
<Ari> *pinches Ara under the table*
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> we all know the renniasnce was some what known for leonardo
<Arathon> there's a thin veneer of culture and pleasantness about it
<Arathon> but it's a dump underneath
<Arathon> like PR ;)
<Ari> *sharply kicks him in the shin*
<Wings> milan would be a good place to base that on then.. milan 1500s was forwards but a cess pit literally
<Arathon> Rome too
<Arathon> (still is :P)
<Arathon> in fact.....
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<Arathon> rome might be a good comparison no?
<Bentalious> That's what happens when you let any and all traders do business. They tend to "seep" into town and "lay roots".
LOL!
<Arathon> compared to Midor's Florence perhaps?
<Arathon> hehe
<Ari> We've briefly brought up it being it being a trade-center...
<Arathon> Casablanca?
<Ari> So it implies implicitly that they're friendly and open to all races
<Arathon> I like itSmileysimilar to casablanca
<Bentalious> WHich makes pirating a very real problem. ;)
* Bentalious likes piartes as much as Ara likes sirines. :-D
<Ari> How is it currently ruled?
<Arathon> hehe
<Arathon> council
<Arathon> and queen
<Wings> florence was very liberal about then.. and certainly less prone [not much] to plague etc..but culturally very advanced
ara
<Arathon> but she's a mere figurehead (like the UK :P)
<Ari> How is the council coming to be?
<Arathon> yeah wings
<Arathon> I like it's comparison to casablanca though
<Arathon> it really fits imho
<Bentalious> A pupet ruler with her "companions" (or decendents thereof) pulling the strings, right?......RIGHT?!? >:)
<Bentalious> sorry, I'll shut up now. :)
<Ari> I don't know much about politics, so I guess someone else have to throw out possibilities for us to choose from.
<Arathon> I see her as a puppet too
<Arathon> how about a kinda senate?
<Ari> 14Puppet huh, Ara? *glares*
<Ari> How kinda senate?
<Arathon> and her as the figurehead
<Arathon> nice to look at but completely useless?
<Arathon> :P
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> or instead of her friends
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> why not make the church running the show
<Arathon> Republic
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> through her friends?
<Bentalious> A prolific speaker too though I think Ara. ;)
<Arathon> that's in midor Alen
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> i'm talking about port royal
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> unless midor has its own regent
<Arathon> pr is non-religious Alen
<Bentalious> Midor is the city run by the institution of the Midoran Religion.
<Ari> 14When has a church been involved in PR?
<Quietus> there's always been one there.
<Bentalious> PR became a haven for those who chose not to believe in the Midoran Religion.
<Quietus> deep dark blood red inside
<Bentalious> The "free thinkers"
<Quietus> unitarians
<Bentalious> At least that's how I see it, but I should really stop interrupting. heh
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> my point is if you want it more like itality in the renasiance you gotta take into account it was very
much run by the vadicain
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> and they were the true power behind the throne
<Ari> (but that is completely incompatible with what we're hvaing now)
<Arathon> I was thinking more appearance alen hehe
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<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> i see
<Ari> Ok. What proposals for selecting the Council are there?
<Arathon> vote?
<Arathon> or perhaps heritage
<Arathon> lineage
<Arathon> like the house of lords
<Arathon> ?
<JadeNight> Lineage of the original companions
<Bentalious> I'm thinking the real power remains hidden like a cult. The "surface representatives" would be just figureheads.
But that's just me.
* Arathon nods with jade
<Arathon> yep ben
<Arathon> aquinas is a mere figurehead
<Catcher-AFK> How about this: Those who give the greatest monetary amounts to the government?
<Arathon> the senate/council hold the true power
<Arathon> just like democracy catcher ;)
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<Arathon> hee hee
<Bentalious> But the general public mustn'y know about this "concil"
<Bentalious> right?
<Arathon> hmm yeah maybe not
<Bentalious> *mustn't
<Catcher> Indeed. It would be more merchant than religon or lineage-centered.
<Bentalious> Right, I like that. Decisions driven by the mighty gold coin. >:)
<Ari> Or a combination of both lineage/monetary?
<Catcher> Definitely different, yet still calling on the free-wheeling spirit of Reniassance Italy.
<Bentalious> That's good too. Honor among thieves. lol
<Catcher> Well, Ari, those that have the gold usually use it to secure more. >:-)
<JadeNight> Perhaps those with money could influence the members of council.
<JadeNight> and do so on a regular basis.
<Ari> Ok. How does -that- in turn influence the current situation and the culture of the city?
<Ari> What do they value?
<Bentalious> Ahhh yes, securing favors. heh
<Ari> What are their virtues and vices?
<Arathon> thye value cash :)
<Arathon> money
<Arathon> money
<Arathon> money
<Catcher> Actually, you could limit those voting to only those with a certain amount of property.
<Ari> How does Aq fit in this?
<Arathon> vices would be anything self-gratifying imho
<Catcher> Done for hundreds of years already in human history.
<Arathon> she hates it secretly aria :P
<JadeNight> Certain merchants control their trade... the night masks use it to have the law turn their faces.
<Bentalious> By any means necessary...without drawing too much attention to themselves by that pesky, snobby Midor. FEH! lol
<JadeNight> And the coucnil works around Aq
<Catcher> "Greed is good. Greed works."
<JadeNight> So now... the power crafters might have some visitors from Port Royale to encourage them to take their wares
elsewhere.
<Catcher> ;-)
<JadeNight> Not leaving the game.... just role playing... mafia type tactics and such.
<Catcher> Or join the Family to pull themselves up.
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> your raised a good point
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> jade
<Bentalious> "encourage" is such a...gentile term for it.Wink
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> in itality there were rich noble crime lords
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> who basically were the mafia and probly still are
<Catcher> Jade: The Mafia comes very much inline from the old patronage system from Imperial Rome.
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> if they havent been killed
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> or there line stomped out
<JadeNight> The members of the council who were 'born' into power became corrupted with each generation
<Ari> So the wealth distribution is quite unbalanced?
<Bentalious> Tasra is talking about more houses to loot. That brings up a good point concerning PR. Gold would be guarded with
one's life,,,or the life of a hirling. ;)
<Arathon> yeo aria
<Arathon> VERY unbalanced
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<Bentalious> The outside patrols wouldn't give a rat's arse about individual houses, so the houses need securing from the
inside. heh
<Catcher> Actually, Ben, privite property laws would be VERY strictly enforced.
<Ari> Ok, how does that reflect on the military systems?
<Ari> Or civil order in general?
<Catcher> Military forces of such a venal state are rarely that strong and are typically mercenary-based.
<Arathon> I like the idea of owner forces
<Arathon> lots of them
<Catcher> How about a caste of warrior halflings? ;-)
<Arathon> not one particular army per se
<Arathon> only military designed to protect merchants and their riches
<Bentalious> I think the military would be hired and would be more concerned with maintaining the freedom which PR has so
proudly declared.
<Arathon> the strongest "army" to the wealthiest
<Arathon> it might bring up some interesting RP
<Ari> I'm into alot more order,
<Catcher> Probably good navy/marines and cavalry, but not very good infantry without a better militant source somewhere.
<Ari> (civil order)
<Bentalious> I see Midor, since they wish to expand, as being a threat to PR's way of life.
<Catcher> A PC or NPC Race might fit the bill.
<Ari> Since if we introduce a 'lawless' city, I'll be getting alot of rules-lawyer PM saying that they PK'ed PP someone
'because it's RP'
<Bentalious> Midor could at any moment start a religious crusade to expand.
<Arathon> night masks would bring order ;)
<Catcher> As to civil order, property laws and forces to guard them would be in abundance, but Justice might be very warped.
<Ari> lol That's like Midor... or anywhere, coming to think of it.
<Ari> Ok.
<Arathon> order by fear basically
<Arathon> the rich merchants hold power and wealth
<Arathon> if someone tries to rob em or somesuch
<Arathon> they employ the nightmasks
<Arathon> who the joe public are terrified of
<Catcher> On the killing front, one might need a writ from an established assassin house to do so since the various grandees
wouldn't want just anyone wandering around starting inter-family wars.
* Arathon nods
<Bentalious> How about if unproductive citizens of PR are by writ, orderd to vacate...or be vacated?
<Merum|NFL> I'm not afraid of de night masks
<Arathon> hehe
<Ari> This is quite elegant... Midor and PR comes from the same root (Aristi), and originally both starts out with good
intentions but different implementations, then one spirals to decadence whereas the other become uncomfortably rigid/frigid...
<Arathon> yup aria :)
<Ari> What about general cultural aspects?
<Merum|NFL> decadence is gud
<Bentalious> And both have interests to protect which could result in a serious clash. >:)
<Merum|NFL> I need ta put some gamblin equipment in de tavern
<Bentalious> Becareful with gambling scripts Merum. They're a messy business. Trust me, I learned the hard way. :p
<Merum|NFL> lol
<Ari> Ok. What about education?
<Catcher> The concentration on patronage would make for a social structure that is both rigid (you don't talk to someone of the
wrong order/house) and fluid (you can move up the ladder on skill).
<Bentalious> But it was a good learning experience. I'm a better scripter now. ;)
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<Merum|NFL> PR a polygloy civ due to the heavy traffic from the docks?
<Merum|NFL> lots of immigrants
<Catcher> Education would be a professional matter, typically reserved for the upper castes.
<Arathon> educated as far as merchant and money matters are concerned but not necessarily culture I would say
<Arathon> and only for upper/middle class yeah
<Bentalious> Well, I suppose Midor would teach religion and history, while PR would teach economics and the arts?
<Arathon> I would see them as thinking they have culture and taste but in reality them just being plebs :)
<Arathon> phillistines really
<Ari> (Ben: Religion implies warping of historiesWink)
<Bentalious> Well, Midor is warped anyway. >:)
<Ari> Ara: remember PR is not modelled after Brits?
<Ari> 14=P
<Ari> Ok... I'm bringing this up because of the module-implementations...
<Ari> I'm interested in having a West end to PR
<Bentalious> I see Midor as proclaiming "It's our way, or you're on your own pal." Bunch of uptight snobs. :p
<Ari> (currently it seems to have rather little room for anything else there)
* Bentalious is not a friend of Midor. >:)
<Ari> But that aside...
<Ari> How do ppl in PR generally talk?
<Bentalious> gutteral and simple, but with a "worldly knowledge"
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<Ari> Explain?
<Bentalious> Traders from all over would inevitably make PR their home since the ideals follow their own.
<Ari> Ok... then there's colour-codes...
<Bentalious> Trading by sea tends to bring out the saltiness in folk.
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<Ari> We've decided that Navy-Gold is the 'royal' colours
<Ari> What do the commoners dress in?
<Bentalious> There could be a "wealthy district" and a "common district" I suppose.
<Ari> PR (or the north in general) is seen to be of warmer, wetter climate
<Ari> (hence exotic fauna -> dyes)
<Ari> I'm seeing a richer warmer look as compared to Midor
<Catcher> Might want to make the colors for different Houses rather than standing in-house.
<Ari> explain?
<Bentalious> hmmm...well the skilled, commoners would likely have art as their trade, so they may dress rather falmboyently.
<Catcher> One Merchant Hose might wear Red predominantly, an opposing House might wear Blue, a third might be green, and so on.
<Bentalious> painters, sculpters, storytellers.
<Ari> (Sure Catcher)
<Bentalious> Then there are the laborers/dock workers/hired hands.
<Ari> (Sure Ben...)
<Bentalious> Drab, practical clothing there.
<Ari> What establishments are needed for a city as such then?
<Ari> Plenty of places to spend their gold, I suppose?
<Bentalious> Taverns for sure. That's where one would look for hired hands
<Ari> And all kinds of artsy stuffs?
<Ari> (or just outright exotic?)
<Ari> And what else?
<Bentalious> yep, an art gallery of sorts would be nice. Like a single thing of elegantbeauty in the middle of hectict eclectic
lol
<Catcher> Some place for the Houses to "show off" their gold. IN Italy, it was churches usually.
<Ari> Ok.
<Ari> Hmm... what else do we need to cover?
<Ari> What about NPCs? What NPCs should be introduced?
<Bentalious> I'd like to build the art gallery if you'd allow me. :)
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<Bentalious> We need sailors looking for work. heh
<Bentalious> Lots of drunks at night, because they work all day (since slacking off is frowned upon)
<Ari> Ok...
<Catcher> The major players in each Merchant House. Let's say seven.
<Bentalious> Maybe gamblers playing dice at street corners. Hustlers too maybe.
<Ari> 14I can't stay up any longer... <- really sick - can someone summarize / post the logs somewhere?
<Catcher> The staffs of each, particullarly those who are in charge of "Special Missions" that might need adventurer types.
<Ari> Ok.
<Bentalious> I can do that if you want Ari. I hope you feel better
<Ari> I'll go get a hot chocolate - nap...
<Bentalious> good :)
<Ari> Keep talking, milk takes time to warm =)
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<Bentalious> heh
<Ari> Cool Catcher - that'd introduce quite a lot of possibilities!
<Catcher> Hey, when you have money, you have "other" people do the dirty jobs. ;-)
<Bentalious> Maybe we could script a street dice game so the players can try to win gold...and if they win too much, a group of
thugs can try to mug them. lol
<Bentalious> I see the local "law" as turning a nose to anyone who is creative in earning a coin or two. ;)
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<Catcher> Let's see, we'll need the high leaders of each temple and those in charge of day-to-day city administration including
the Harbor.
<Ari> Oh. How does religion tie in with PR?
<Bentalious> Well, my Goddess can have a temple, since she's Lady Luck. ;)
<Bentalious> hee-hee
<Ari> Oh, and Rashik
<Catcher> Like I said, it's a way for the Merchant Houses to "keep score"
<Ari> "keep score"?
<Catcher> And to keep the plebes well pacified.
<JadeNight> How about Valyane? Goddess of the Winds? Sailors would want favorable winds.
<Bentalious> Showing off their valuables you mean, right Catcher?
<Catcher> One Merchant House may build temples, additions, arts for one diety while a rival might do anoother.
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<Bentalious> Right, like a "competition" to see who's better off.
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> all that talk of merchant houses reminds me of dune
<Alenuska[notAllaneska]> and the spiiiiiiice!
<Bentalious> That's a good one too Jade
<Bentalious> lol Alen
<Bentalious> Are we done then?
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<Catcher> Very much, Alen, though those were based from Late Republican Rome as well.
<Bentalious> Were we done Catcher?
<Catcher> I guess so if we've got what Ari needed.
<Bentalious> I was supposed to bring something up, but I forget what. :p
<Catcher> Who was behind Aq. rise, perhaps?
<Bentalious> OH! The All Vives Eve event.
<Bentalious> I need to get a play together. Ari said audience (player) participation is a good idea.
<Bentalious> But the actualy play has to be writen by us writers, unless we try for an impromptu thing.
<Bentalious> *actual
<Ari> Oh yes.
<Ari> I was thinking of a play that talks about the founding of PR...
<Bentalious> cool
<Ari> It'd help educate our players about it (those who don't read the forums anyways)
<Catcher> Sanitized to fit the Council, of course. ;-)
<Bentalious> good idea :)
<Ari> And in the process it'd help fix a deadline in developing things.
* Ari needs deadlines
<Ari> Or inspirations.
<Ari> Althought the latter is somehow intrinsically tied in to the former
<Bentalious> Ari, I need you to do a walkthru with me regarding the areas you had in mind for this event sometime please. :)
<Ari> Okie... when is this again?
<Ari> 25th?
<Bentalious> I was thinking Saturday night, the 25th
<Ari> Ok
<Bentalious> yeah
<Ari> If someone can summarize this log it'd be great - esp. pointing out things that needs to be done on a module level
<Ari> If no one wants to I can do the summary (tho it'll take time)
<Bentalious> I'll do it if you want Ari.
<Bentalious> After I eat dinner, ok?
<Ari> Take your time. The deadline is Tuesday 5pm.
<Tore> Are oxen persistent ?
<Bentalious> 'cause where am I going'?Tongue outStupid legs.
<Ari> 14=P
<Tore> Sorry, wrong chan.
<Bentalious> lol
<Bentalious> Oh, I'll have it done before I go to bed tonight. Not to worry ;)
<Catcher> Ari: Are we going to try to make this meeting a regular thing?
<Ari> Ok, I'll give you your Builder's Toolkit by next Friday then Ben ;)
<Bentalious> 14Since I STILL can't script yet. >:) Just messin. :-D
<Bentalious> ooops lol
<Ari> Catcher: It'd be cool to have, say, 2 weeks time to develop PR (like what we're having now, with the Event being the
epitome of our acheivements)
<Ari> And then move on elsewhere, rinse-lather-repeat
<Bentalious> heh
<Bentalious> Does Vives have tribal human settlements yet?
<Ari> I'm still interested in making the framework to let DMs being able to write dialogues on the fly
<Ari> Ben: Sparingly I think
<Catcher> Okies. Maybe before we need to assign some sub-projects out. Like NPCs, the Night Scales, Religion in PR, etc.
<Bentalious> ok
<Ari> Sure catcher. (can it NOT be night scales?)
<Bentalious> awww
<Ari> (like, it sounds so cliche' =P )
<Catcher> Veradour then?
<Ari> (and they're a noble ppl before right?)
<Bentalious> Well, what would humans call them who first see them? We should think about that.
<Ari> Well, but they certainly don't think of themselves that way
<Ari> heh. No one ever call themselves Night whatever
<Ari> Or do you mean the PR ppl call them Night Scales?
<Bentalious> So, this is what they are calling themselves?
<Bentalious> Right, the PR settlers
<Ari> Why Veradour, Catcher?
<Ari> Ok, they need a name from humans, and a name of their own language
<Bentalious> Maybe there could be an old name for them by humans (when they were peaceful and civilized) and a newer name for
them (now that they have become violent and human flesh-eating) heh
<Bentalious> Becoming violent BECAUSE of the Humans of course.
<Ari> (1) Reptile-men (2) Merchant houses (3) lower-classes (4) ruling classes
<Ari> Are these 4 things that need to be tended to?
<Catcher> Just something I pulled out of the air. Sounds noble enough and counter to the sibilant hissings usually assigned.
<Bentalious> and (5) NPCs Ari
<Ari> (Ben: each of the tasks involve writings onAngel background, (b) NPCs, (c) module implementation)
<Bentalious> oh ok
<Ari> Does that sounds good?
<Bentalious> I see a large dock area too where the artists ply their trade and where the taverns/hired hands situate themselves.
<Ari> Ok... you want (3), Ben?
<Bentalious> ok :)
<Ari> (2) for catcher?
<Catcher> Sounds fine. BTW, the Merchant Houses really ARE the ruling class, I think. Opinions?
<Ari> 14(4) includes the history/background
<Ari> Sure - then (4) becomes only the History then.
<Ari> I was more thinking alongside the involvement of Aq and her original companions
<Ari> I'll take on (4) then.
<Ari> When's the deadline?
<Ari> 14 ;)
<Bentalious> heh, that's up to you ;)
<Ari> Hmm... This Thursday?
<Bentalious> ok, no prob here
<Catcher> Wait, who's got 1?
<Ari> We'll need someone to do up (1) tho
<Ari> yup
<Ari> Hmm... how about (1) comes after these?
<Bentalious> Don't we have other writers? :p
* Ari looks to the conveniently quiet list on the right =P
<Bentalious> lol
<Bentalious> Alo looks bored >:)
<Ari> Let's do up (2), (3), and (4) first, and then see to (1)?
<Bentalious> ok
<Ari> Thursday 5pm then?
<Bentalious> cool
<Ari> No more than 15 pages font 8 single spaced 1 inche margin ok? ;)
<Bentalious> What is the outline? We should have a standarized one I think.
<Ari> Outline?
<Bentalious> Like what's to be included and in what order kind of thing.
<Ari>Angel background + description, (b) NPCs / CPCs / potential quests involved, (c) module implementation (area-wise)
<Ari> Does that sounds good?
<Bentalious> ok, that works :)

Aria

So talented, so troubled.
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