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Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 09:06 AM |
Texas arresting people in bars for being drunk!!
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2006-03-22T230530Z_01_N22388344_RTRIDST_0_OUKOE-UK-BARS.XML&archived=False |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 09:59 AM |
And people in Asia act surprised when I tell them that the US is generally quite conservative.
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 11:18 AM |
That's rather stupid, but I was quite surprised when in August last year I wanted to buy a bottle of wine and couldn't because it was 11.30 AM on a Sunday. They didn't sell alcohol on Sunday mornings. What? O.o
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 11:18 AM |
Weirdos...
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 02:02 PM |
Ho Ho Ho ...
Yet another step down Bush's yellow brick road.
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 02:13 PM |
Phoenix, where was it that you couldn't buy alcohol?
I think the title of this thread should have been:
Don't Drink With Texas!
such a minor edit, but oh what a difference. |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 02:17 PM |
in Beaver Creek Col. the only offy in town was shut all day sunday !!!!!!!!!!
And the bleedin supermarket didnt even sell it !!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 02:21 PM |
That's rather stupid, but I was quite surprised when in August last year I wanted to buy a bottle of wine and couldn't because it was 11.30 AM on a Sunday. They didn't sell alcohol on Sunday mornings. What? O.o
People would riot over here if you couldn't buy alcohol at certain days or times. :P
Heh.. I remember back when I was in the navy, and in school in Connecticut... we went on a road trip to Rhode Island (erm.. no pun intended) for the weekend and were surprised when we couldn't buy alcohol anywhere on a sunday. people said your best bet was to either stock up on saturday, or drive across the state line to get your goods (or maybe it was the county line... cant recall now)
but yeah.. very weird to have certain times and even whole days that you cant buy it. I guess they figure it will stop some of the impulse drinkers... or... something
as for being drunk in a bar... I just dont see how that is possible. there HAS to be something seriously wrong with anyone who can get drunk in a bar. lock em all up I say.
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 02:23 PM |
Bush, Schmush.
Even the most liberal of states, like California and Massachussetts, have blue laws. In Los Angeles you can't buy alcohol between 2 and 6 AM. This isn't about neoconservatism or any sort of modern trend; it's a part of American culture that goes back to our Puritan beginnings, not unlike our rather unenlightened views about sex.
When I was on tour in the midwest, we would inevitably weekend in a dry county, which means that a beer run consisted of an hour and a half round trip - quite annoying for a drinking company with an acting problem. ;)
Unfortunately the American view on alcohol doesn't make much sense, but every culture has its idiosynchrasies... Germans dig David Hasselhoff... there's no cheese in Chinese food... Canadians always have to own "Roots" clothing... ad infinitum.
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 02:38 PM |
| Calling Ron White. You are needed in Texas. |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 02:41 PM |
Here in Ontario, Canada you can only buy alcohol from one place. The LCBO.
They control the entire market in Ontario and have 2 brands - The Beer Store and The LCBO.
Apart from some vineyards (where you can buy direct, it's big-time wine country here), there are no other choices, that's it!
These stores are usually only open from 9am to 6pm or somesuch. So outside of those hours, you're screwed ;)
The Bad thing: Even though it's run by the govt of Ontario as completely non-profit, it still manages to be more expensive here in Ontario than anywhere else in Canada.
The REason, perhaps for this expense (apart from idiotic Govt employees trying to run what is, essentially, a business) is also the Good Thing about it:
(1) Massive range and choice (small brewery beers from all over the World are easily available, so Black sheep and many others)........ the biggest I've ever seen in any Booze store anywhere in the World.
(2) The Staff are feces-hot, they know their stuff about all types of booze (apart from beer which still sucks in Canada in the main).
(3) All the stores are clean.
(4) They do tastings, courses, cooking stuff (they usually have kitchens and areas for tasting and whatnot)........ loadsa stuff :)
So the times and locations suck arse (you can't buy any booze anywhere apart from these, including supermarkets; They also don't stock mixers such as coke as that would be "unfair" to supermarkets heh), but the stores themselves are awesome ;) |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 02:48 PM |
Since I don't see any Canadians smugly saying 'we're better', as we are often wont to do, nearly all things alcohol related are worse here.
1. In most provinces, alcohol is only sold in government owned stores working government hours (my own province is an exception);
2. In most provinces, bars have to stop selling alcohol at 2 AM and can't start again until 10 AM (and I think some still make bars shut down at 12 AM or 1 AM);
3. The excise taxes on most liquor make it cheaper to buy Canadian made alcohol in the United States and bring it back here.
4. Being intoxicated in a public place IS an offense in Alberta (the Canadian province I live in), and a bar is ostensibly a public place. It is also against the law to serve alcohol to someone who's already 3 sheets to the wind.
5. I used to travel to Texas for work from time to time, and found the bars no more oppressive than the ones here. I also found the night life in Austin a lot more interesting.
((Edit - I wrote this post around the same time as Arathon obviously...so I'll retract my 'not seeing any Canadians' comment))
((Second edit - err...presumed citizenship of Arathon was mistaken - he's actually an alien))
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 02:55 PM |
As a native Californian of some pride (with a family harkening back to the days before statehood) I just had to point something out:
Despite national opinion to the contrary, California is not liberal. Democratic, yes. Liberal, no. Considering how very conservative the US is by international standards, and that many of today's most relevant domestic political trends started in california (back lash against affirmative action, tax revolt, term limits and general distrust of politicians for example) and spread to the national gov't as well as other states - I don't see how this state's liberal label has stuck. If you really compare domestic policy and politcal views of Americans with those of others from around the world I think you'll find that much of America is all over the political map, a bit confused, and apparently going through some severe growing pains (while trying to pretend that we are perfect and do not need to change).
Local politics in San Francisco for example have been machine dominated for a very long time. And the mayor although nominally a democrat is just another favored son hand picked by the chamber of commerce. Superficial policy that is liberal in a flashy way will come out of that city, but for the most part it is a politically conservative while socially liberal city.
And Southern California is not even "blue". Hasn't been since all those orange and avocado groves were replaced with tract housing. Of course LA is going to have moralistic laws about alcohol. The region is the home of tele-evangelism. |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 02:56 PM |
I'm British I just happen to reside here :D |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 03:08 PM |
Chuckle
I was reliably informed by a 14 yr old American kid that Canada is the same as the US except that everything costs $5 more.
He went on to exclaim that he hadnt realised that old people snow boarded when i told him how old i was. And then proclaimed that America produced the best bands in the world "The Rolling Stones" and "Led Zepelin" |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 03:11 PM |
At least he knows about Zepelin. Its a start. How The Zep could be American is a mystery however.
You should expose him to Rush. aka: Canadian Zeppelin. :) |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 03:14 PM |
| I motion that it become an offence in Midor to serve alcohol to anyone who is already three sheets to the wind. (Great turn of phrase by the way) |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 03:34 PM |
| How will the red and righteous count one's sheets to the wind? |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 03:51 PM |
How will the red and righteous count one's sheets to the wind?
One has to presume it will involve fire. |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 03:53 PM |
I motion that it become an offence in Midor to serve alcohol to anyone who is already three sheets to the wind. (Great turn of phrase by the way)
*clears his throat*
In Midor...
-Public drunkenness is illegal
-Private drunkenness is illegal
-Getting drunk on sacrimental wine is fun, but illegal
-Drinking excessively is illegal.
-Drinking non-Midoran approved beverages isn't illegal, but it will dang your soul to hell
-Offering a toast to the White Bishop, ever Midoran bless and keep him, is legal and a good idea if you want to show you're a loyal citizen.
-Drinking with halflings is disgusting, but not illegal.
-Drinking elvish wine is illegal and also a bit nauseating.
-Drinking is okay for priests of the New Order. After all, they know what's best for you.
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 04:12 PM |
But Rush sucks
Have to responed to some of the things Robber said
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3. The excise taxes on most liquor make it cheaper to buy Canadian made alcohol in the United States and bring it back here. <quote>
Your probably thinking of duty free shops. Theres shops at boarder-crossings where they charge no tax at all, so bottles that would be around 40$ are 12 -16, and you can get cases of beer for less then 14$ Canadian dollars. I don't think just going into a random liquor store in the U.S. you are going to see much of a difference.
4. Being intoxicated in a public place IS an offense in Alberta (the Canadian province I live in), and a bar is ostensibly a public place. It is also against the law to serve alcohol to someone who's already 3 sheets to the wind.
Thats pretty much the law everywhere, you bar is not suppose to serve you, but its enforced differently everywhere.
But yes the original article is ridiculous. 99% of people can stumble home from bar fine, and usually have a less drunk friend to carry them, I've done it hundreds of times without incident, once already this weekend. I can't beleive that the best way of catching the other 1% who is stupid enough to get in a car is to go undercover into a bar and charge random drunks. If the police don't have more important things to do they must be doing a good job, and have crime undercontrol in that area, perhaps they could lay off some of them since theres no real crime to enforce.
"There are a lot of dangerous and stupid things people do when they're intoxicated, other than get behind the wheel of a car," Beck said. "People walk out into traffic and get run over, people jump off of balconies trying to reach a swimming pool and miss."
Makes this spokes women sound like shes never been drunk in her life, also sounds boarderline like something from refer madness, most people can control themselves at least a little drunk, and the people that do those kinda things drunk, are the same ones dumb enough to do the same things sobber. |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 05:40 PM |
*Raises a huge glass of foaming intoxicants*
"I'll drink to whatever it was that Mykal said just then *Brurp*"
All be praised ter Vidus Artois *hic*
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 24 Mar 2006 07:23 PM |
When I first came to Hong Kong, I took a job as a "doorman" (aka, bouncer) in a western style bar in a popular tourist area.
The first week was just full of surprises...
- you could buy any kind of alcohol in any kind of store, any time.
- you could drink it in public, whether it was sitting on a bench, walking down the street, sitting on the beach, whatever.
- there were no laws against drink driving. (there is now). Some nights, I'd pour some patrons out of the bar, and into their car. (the puritan in me forced me to keep their keys)
- closing hours? yeah right. some places stay open all night...and even into the next day so people can end the night with a good lunch. (boy! does that take some stamina!).
All in all a pretty big surprise from a kid from a place where alcohol is strictly controlled, limited to one government store, extremely expensive, with restricted days, hours, with insane laws about what you can do with it (drink in your yard? Ha! to jail with you, you criminal!).
I much prefer their take on things here.
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 25 Mar 2006 10:36 AM |
| Were you there before the hand over? |
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Re: Don't Drink in Texas!
Posted: 25 Mar 2006 10:44 AM |
Around here, it is fondly remembered as the "Hang Over" celebrations. I even flew my mother over so she could get blotto with the rest of us ;-)
I've been here since 1990. |
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