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Lore: The Midoran Defence Force
Posted: 25 Feb 2005 11:26 PM |
Hey all :)
First off, a hearty "hello!" I just began playing a character on Vives, and wow... having a lot of fun just walking around the world... Great stuff!
I was hoping that some of you who have been around for a bit, might be able to give me a hand fleshing out some of the background for my character.
I'm playing a retired soldier of the Midoran army. He's been retired for a while now, and is not a big fan of the direction Vidus is taking Midor. He and "the boys" (other retired soldiers from his time who now live in Paws) had chatted about this a number of times over a glass of ale... but Edrik got tired of just talking and has gotten off his tail to try to help do something about it. He plans to spend time in Midor to get the pulse of the people, and travel the land to show others a face of old Midor, where a more compassionate heart tempered its sense of justice.
That said, I could use a little bit of help in gathering information about Midor and it's army. I know there is a bunch of information to be found in-game, and I'll look for it, but are there any threads or references that I could read on the forums here, or anywhere else? What I'd be looking for are any major events that would have occured during Edrik's time in the army (he served for 25 to 30 years, and retired about 10 years ago), and a bit about what some of the standard patrols and deployments might have been. After so much time in the ranks, he'd have some stories to tell (I may even end up giving him some ranks in bard). I just want to make sure that those stories are consistant with the history and typical duties of a Midoran soldier of his time.
Any help would be appreciated! You can post here or PM, whichever you prefer.
Thanks! I look forward to seeing you in Vives! :) |
"Beer is living proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
"I hate quotation." - Ralph Waldo Emerson :P |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 26 Feb 2005 01:21 AM |
Look around is the best advice I can give you. Big things are going on in Midor right now so there's a lot of threads available I'm sure that might give you some insight.
Granted the best way to learn things is to FOIG.
Good luck and welcome! |
- [Rob], Balthor, Jake, and Thomas. |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 27 Feb 2005 06:30 PM |
You asked for it, and so, here is more information then you will ever, ever, EVER need.
Note that Midor has three Divisons, the 1st Templar, the 2nd Templar, and the 3rd Templar.
Divison of the Midoran Army
I. Templar Division.
A) Divisions
-3 Divisions in Midoran army.
-5400 soldiers in each Division
B) Regiments
-3 Regiments per Division
-1800 soldiers in each Regiment
C) Battalion
-3 Battalions in each Regiment
-600 Men in each Battalion
D) Company
-3 Companies per Battalion
-200 men per company
E) Platoon
-3 to 4 Platoons per Company
- 40-50 men per Platoon
-Actual number of platoons and soldiers staffing depends on the mission of the Company
F) Squads
-3 Squads per Platoon
-Number of soldiers varies
G) Hearts
-Divided as closely as possible into 3 Hearts
-Hearts are the basic unit of any military force
- Consists of 3 men lead by the Heart commander
II. Platoon Importance.
A) Role
-The Platoon is by far the most effective force in the Midoran Army.
-A Platoon's composition will change depending on it's mission.
-Paladins are considered officers in Platoons
III. Other Units.
A) 1st Templar Reinforced Division
-Reinforced Division (REN DIV)
This means that as well as having the traditional three battalion's it has an extra BATTALION. This BATTALION is kept in reserve and deployed in situations where the regular Midoran Army is already deployed. It will act as a relief unit for any soldiers already on the field.
IV. Military Intelligence
Intelligence will be gathered according to the wishes of the High-Paladin and the guidelines set forth in section 1a of Midoran’s Military Intelligence Protocol.
Specific Divisional breakdown (example)
I. First Templar Division
A. First Regiment
1. Headquarters Battalion
Alpha Company
i. Command Element w/ support.
ii. Administrative platoon - - handles pay and paperwork for the BATTALION
iii. Medical Platoon - This platoon is staffed mostly with cleric and is responsible for day-to-day medical problems. It is usually housed in a clinic or hospital on the base or post.
Bravo Company
i. Supply and Issue Platoon - This platoon is responsible for the issue and maintenance of gear issued to the army. This includes weapons, armor, field gear, ammunition, sundries, etc.
ii. Arcane support platoon - This platoon is responsible for the special needs of the wizards and sorcerers in the Regiment
iii. Legal platoon - This platoon handles any legal concerned in the army including Non Judicial Punishment and Court-martials.
Charlie Company
i. Security platoon - This platoon is responsible for the safety and security of the Headquarters Battalion.
ii. Combat Service and Support Platoon (CSSP) - This platoon is responsible for physically making sure that the various units are properly supplied. They are best known for their extremely dangerous battlefield re-supply missions.
iii. Ceremonies platoon - This platoon is renown throughout the Empire as being the most well disciplined and best drilled platoon in the Armed Service. There are strict height and weight requirements in order to become a member of the platoon. The platoon is used in all official ceremonies and is often use.
2. First Battalion
Alpha Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon - Sword platoons are composed of man-at-arms (enlisted) and archers led by a paladin. The paladin usually has another of the Order to act as his XO, but this role is often filled by the senior ranking NCO. Two or more clerics are also attached to this type of platoon to act as corpsmen and to provide religious services to the men.
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon - this platoon will have artillery attached to the Company. Not all Companies will have artillery, this is by the discretion of the battalion commander and the Regimental Commanding Officer when the battalion is formed
Bravo Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Charlie Company
i. CSS Platoon
ii. Arcane Support Platoon.- Despite the name this platoon rarely has more than three or four casters. Because of how valuable a caster can be in combat, the caster is protected by soldiers that fill out the rest of the platoon.
iii. Intelligence/Communication Platoon - This platoon does not actively engage in intelligence gathering activities but rather is where intelligence is delivered. The platoon is responsible for dispersing the information gathered though intelligence to the rest of the battalion. Along with a security force of soldiers and archers there are several runners with extremely swift horses. These runners are prime targets for enemy attack as they often carry sensitive information on the movements and activities of the Midoran Army.
3. Second Battalion
Alpha Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Bravo Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Charlie Company
i. CSS Platoon
ii. Arcane Support Platoon
iii Intelligence/Communication Platoon
4. Third Battalion (Reinforced)
Alpha Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Bravo Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Charlie Company
i. CSS Platoon
ii. Arcane Support Platoon
iii. Intelligence/Communication Platoon
B. Second Regiment
1. Headquarters BATTALION
Alpha Company
i. Command Element w/ support.
ii. Administrative platoon
iii. Medical Platoon
Bravo Company
i. Supply and Issue Platoon
ii. Arcane support platoon
iii. Legal platoon
Charlie Company
i. Security platoon
ii. Combat Service and Support Platoon (CSSP)
iii. Ceremonies platoon
2. First Battalion
Alpha Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Bravo Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Charlie Company
i. CSS Platoon
ii. Arcane Support Platoon
iii. Intelligence/Communication Platoon
3. Second Battalion
Alpha Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Bravo Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Charlie Company
i. CSS Platoon
ii. Arcane Support Platoon
Iii Intelligence/Communication Platoon
C. Third Regiment
1. Headquarters BATTALION
Alpha Company
i. Command Element w/ support.
ii. Administrative platoon
iii. Medical Platoon
Bravo Company
i. Supply and Issue Platoon
ii. Arcane support platoon
iii. Legal platoon
Charlie Company
i. Security platoon
ii. Combat Service and Support Platoon (CSSP)
iii. Ceremonies platoon
2. First Battalion
Alpha Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Bravo Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Charlie Company
i. CSS Platoon
ii. Arcane Support Platoon
iii. Intelligence/Communication Platoon
3. Second Battalion
Alpha Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Bravo Company
i. 1st Sword Platoon
ii. 2nd Sword Platoon
iii. 3rd Sword Platoon
Charlie Company
i. CSS Platoon
ii. Arcane Support Platoon
iii. Information/Communication Platoon
Credit to this should go to Rahn, who created the list months ago. Enjoy.
-DB |
Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.
-Henry David Thoreau
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 27 Feb 2005 07:45 PM |
((Wow, thanks, I eat this stuff up...,
If there are 3600 soldiers per division, and 3 platoons in each division, shouldn't there be ~1200 soldiers in each platoon, not 1800? If you want to keep the division math, beef it up to 4800 soldiers per division.)) |
The Legacy Saga |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 27 Feb 2005 08:11 PM |
((Wow, thanks, I eat this stuff up...,
If there are 3600 soldiers per division, and 3 platoons in each division, shouldn't there be ~1200 soldiers in each platoon, not 1800? If you want to keep the division math, beef it up to 4800 soldiers per division.))
((Leave it to a Marine (ie, Rahn) to not get the math right. Thanks for the catch, Veran.
-DB)) |
Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.
-Henry David Thoreau
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 28 Feb 2005 04:26 AM |
((Whilst I think this kind of stuff really does give depth to the World, I have to confess to a little historic scepticism about the use of the words Platoon and Squad which were military terms that derived from the 17th Century!!! *grins*
Anyway, nice to see this kind of fleshing out of the organisations of Vives. Would be nice if PCs could start having positions within these orders too.
Not that I'd be seen dead in a Midoran uniform, you hear!!!!
*suddenly realises how a DM might take that last statement and rushes off to hide* |
Never argue with an idiot.
They drag you down to their level
and then beat you with experience.
Akril
Quinellieth. 20th Circle of the Order of the Ring |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 28 Feb 2005 05:47 AM |
| So Rahn is a Devil Dog eh? I know many of those. Hell I live with one *looks in the mirror*. |
Signed,
Bhrodi Ferocitas
"From discipline comes all else."
"He who wins the war writes the history."
"Si vis pacem, para bellum."
("If you want peace, prepare for war.") |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 28 Feb 2005 11:43 AM |
So Rahn is a Devil Dog eh? I know many of those. Hell I live with one *looks in the mirror*.
Rahn is also my twin brother, who, if anyone remembers (or cares), makes me a much older person in Vives then anyone probably realized. Rahn's not around anymore, but he'll be endlessly pleased that this was posted and recieved so well.
-DB |
Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.
-Henry David Thoreau
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 28 Feb 2005 01:28 PM |
Thanks, DB! Great information. :)
So if my math is right, the standing army is 16,800 strong? (three divisions of 5400, plus one additional batallion)? |
"Beer is living proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin
"I hate quotation." - Ralph Waldo Emerson :P |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 28 Feb 2005 01:36 PM |
Thanks, DB! Great information. :)
So if my math is right, the standing army is 16,800 strong? (three divisions of 5400, plus one additional batallion)?
You need lots of soldiers to do Midoran's will. |
Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.
-Henry David Thoreau
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 28 Feb 2005 02:29 PM |
| and faith! dont forget faith! |
Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly.
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And makes the world taste good."
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 28 Feb 2005 03:36 PM |
*facepalm*
Yeah yeah...faith...*rolls her eyes* |
Frodo : What are we holding on to, Sam?
Sam : That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it’s worth fighting for.
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 28 Feb 2005 04:00 PM |
<quote
((Leave it to a Marine (ie, Rahn) to not get the math right. Thanks for the catch, Veran.
-DB))
Eh Wut gives I r Jarhed, an I can count to 21.... ifn I take off my boots and drop drawz.
LOL> |
Ellarin Starpyre
Glaia
Suigat Datten |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 28 Feb 2005 07:14 PM |
dang, did I really do the wrong math while pointing out the wrong math... *considers*
I guess 16 x3 is 48 then, isn't it, 18 is a couple of 9's... which means 6... which is 60-6=54... dang. I feel stupid now. |
The Legacy Saga |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 28 Feb 2005 11:31 PM |
dang, did I really do the wrong math while pointing out the wrong math... *considers*
I guess 16 x3 is 48 then, isn't it, 18 is a couple of 9's... which means 6... which is 60-6=54... dang. I feel stupid now.
Don't worry, man, I got ya covered. *points up at the proper math* |
Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.
-Henry David Thoreau
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 01 Mar 2005 03:20 AM |
dang, did I really do the wrong math while pointing out the wrong math... *considers*
I guess 16 x3 is 48 then, isn't it, 18 is a couple of 9's... which means 6... which is 60-6=54... dang. I feel stupid now.
Don't worry, man, I got ya covered. *points up at the proper mathS * X
Ah the lovely days of having your maths corrected by a teacher. And your English too for that matter! *tries to understand the nonsensical abbreviation of mathamatics to math and adds a big S in English indignation.*
*grins playfully* |
Never argue with an idiot.
They drag you down to their level
and then beat you with experience.
Akril
Quinellieth. 20th Circle of the Order of the Ring |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 02 Mar 2005 09:16 PM |
| Math is always short for Mathematics. If Maths was short for Mathematics, you'd never see the word Math ever.. but you do, so there's nothing wrong with his sentence, other than the fact that he turned "man" into an appositive instead of an conjunctional phrase. |
The Legacy Saga |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 02 Mar 2005 11:26 PM |
Right, if there are no further constructive comments on the original post, or about the Midoran army in gernal (note I said constructive) then I will lock this post down.
-DB |
Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.
-Henry David Thoreau
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 03 Mar 2005 04:16 AM |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 03 Mar 2005 05:11 AM |
Math is always short for Mathematics. If Maths was short for Mathematics, you'd never see the word Math ever.. but you do, so there's nothing wrong with his sentence, other than the fact that he turned "man" into an appositive instead of an conjunctional phrase.
You only see Math as an abbreviation in America. All other English speaking nations abbreviate it to its correct abbreviation Maths
But on topic, if we want to play a member of the Midoran troup so to speak do we have to be paladins and would we necessarily be in one of the companies etc.
Also, when writing a history how much creative license are we allowed with say ancestral links to a particular company? |
Never argue with an idiot.
They drag you down to their level
and then beat you with experience.
Akril
Quinellieth. 20th Circle of the Order of the Ring |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 03 Mar 2005 07:19 AM |
| (( Akril, please stay on topic - thanks)) |
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- Ilyana Fiirhaart, High Priestess of Naruth |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 03 Mar 2005 08:47 AM |
| ((I believe, besides a comment I did. Apologies if that was not viewed as such)). |
Never argue with an idiot.
They drag you down to their level
and then beat you with experience.
Akril
Quinellieth. 20th Circle of the Order of the Ring |
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Re: ?'s about Midor and it's army
Posted: 03 Mar 2005 09:47 AM |
But on topic, if we want to play a member of the Midoran troup so to speak do we have to be paladins and would we necessarily be in one of the companies etc.
Also, when writing a history how much creative license are we allowed with say ancestral links to a particular company?
I'd say that if you want to include a specific regiment, squat, or Heart, go ahead and be creative. Just don't go overboard and create wars or campaigns that never happened. I'm working on a quick hit history of Midor that would go back 20 years before the campaign date. That should help with people wanting to play soldiers serving in the Midoran military, present or past.
A quick note, the Midoran Regulars typically serve with paladins as officers. An analogy to modren day would be the paladins are like Lieutenants and the regulars are the enlisted men.
More later,
-DB |
Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.
-Henry David Thoreau
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The Midoran Defence Forces
Posted: 26 Dec 2005 06:33 AM |
Ranks
(This information takes precedence over any previous info on the ranks of the Midoran Defence Force.
...Just like real life, eh? The military changes wayyy more often than you might think. RIs get issued so frequently in the real military that it's hard to keep track of what the current uniform or ranks or procedures are.)
The Defence Forces
RS and Paladins all outrank the regular defence forces. The lowest-ranking RS or Paladin is considered to outrank the highest-ranking officer of the regular defence force.
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* Righteous Swords
* Paladin Order
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* Army
* Navy
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Righteous Swords - Inquisitors
A specialist division of the Righteous Swords, Inquisitors are considered to outrank everybody except the clergy.
> Chief Inquisitor | CIQ(RS) (only one of these can ever be in existence; the CIQ(RS) heads the entire RS and answers to the White Bishop)
> Senior Inquisitor | SIQ(RS)
> Inquisitor | IQ(RS)
Righteous Swords - Commissioned Officers
All officers within the Righteous Swords are Righteous Sword Knights. Currently, RSK only hold top positions; there are no low-ranking officers.
> High Paladin | HPAL (only one of these can ever be in existence; the High Paladin heads both the Righteous Swords and the Paladin Order and answers to the CIQ(RS))
> General | GEN(RS)
> Brigadier | BRIG(RS)
Righteous Swords - Warrant Officers and Non-Commissioned Officers
These are the Righteous Sword Enforcers and Mystics. Although they are all considered NCOs, the lowest ranking NCO is still considered to outrank the highest ranking officer in the Regular Army.
> Regimental Sergeant-Major of the Righteous Swords (only one of these can ever be in existence; the RSM-RS heads the Righteous Sword Enforcers)
> Warrant Officer | WO(RS)
> Staff Sergeant | SSGT(RS)
> Sergeant | SGT(RS)
> Corporal | CPL(RS) (Mystics don't rank higher than CPL; everyone above this rank is an Enforcer)
> Lance Corporal | LCPL(RS)
Paladin Order - Commissioned Officers
All Paladins are considered officers.
> High Paladin | HPAL (only one of these can ever be in existence; the High Paladin heads both the Righteous Swords and the Paladin Order and answers to the CIQ(RS))
> General | GEN(PAL) (These are the High Captains — "High Captain" is the name of the role, not their rank)
> Brigadier | BRIG(PAL)
> Colonel | COL(PAL)
> Major | MAJ(PAL)
> Captain | CAPT(PAL)
> Lieutenant | LT(PAL)
> 2nd Lieutenant | 2LT(PAL)
Paladin Order - Trainees
Occupying an odd sort of place somewhat outside the chain of commands, no one's entirely sure where trainees stand in the scheme of things. They're usually treated as a junior form of 2LT(PAL).
> Squire | SQ(PAL) (This is something of a transitional rank; squires are not considered full Paladins, but neither are they still in training at the Academy)
> Officer Cadet | OCDT(PAL) (This rank is held by all cadets at the Midoran Academy)
Army - Commissioned Officers
Officers are the leaders, policy makers and strategists of the army. A rare few go on to become Divine Champions, a sort of quasi-Paladin belonging to the regular army. The top positions tend to be held by Divine Champions.
> General | GEN (Only one person holds this rank, and that is the Chief of the Army; the CA answers directly to the HPAL)
> Brigadier | BRIG
> Colonel | COL
> Major | MAJ
> Captain | CAPT
> Lieutenant | LT
> 2nd Lieutenant | 2LT
Army - Warrant Officers
> Regimental Sergeant-Major of the Army | RSM-A (Only one person ever holds this rank; the RSM-A answers directly to the RSM-RS)
> Warrant Officer | WO
Army - Non-Commissioned Officers
> Staff Sergeant | SSGT
> Sergeant | SGT
> Corporal | CPL
> Lance Corporal | LCPL
Army - Enlisted
> Private | PTE (Often addressed by role rather than rank... eg. Marksman, Cavalry, Sapper, Signaller)
Navy - Commissioned Officers
> Admiral | ADM (Only one person holds this rank, and that is the Chief of the Navy; the CN answers directly to the HPAL)
> Commodore | CDRE
> Captain | CAPT
> Commander | CMDR
> Lieutenant | LT
> Syb Lieutenant | SBLT
Navy - Warrant Officers
> Warrant Officer of the Navy | WO-N (Only one person ever holds this rank; the WO-N answers directly to the RSM-RS)
> Warrant Officer | WO
> Chief Petty Officer | CPO
Navy - Non-Commissioned Officers
> Petty Officer | PO
> Leading Seaman | LS
> Able Seaman | AB
> Seaman | SMN
Chain of Command
CIQ(RS)
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GEN(RS) = GEN(PAL)
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2LT = (No navy equivalent)
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Re: The Midoran Defence Forces
Posted: 26 Dec 2005 10:23 PM |
Addendum to the Rank Structure
Note that there is a difference between the rank structure and the command organisation.
The command organisation is what Mykal defined. It goes through all the different roles within the Midoran military.
The rank structure is what I defined. It outlines all the levels of management (ie the ranks) within the MDF. |
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