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Forums  > From Behind the Curtains  > From Behind the Curtains  > DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien     Display using: Flat View Threaded View   Oldest to newest Newest to oldest Previous Thread :: Next Thread   Author  Thread: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 01 Feb 2005 10:01 PM (( I have put a general outline here . I will use this thread to add to modify or completely change any of the parts as needed. Any ideas / concerns post away. As you see it is just a broad outline. Will make the buzz post tonight or tomorrow to get the dwarves talking.)) Part one: The big buzz in Bregodim halls over an ancient piece of tablet that was discovered: I need to let dwarf pcs know about the "buzz over the tablet" going on in the halls first thing. If they live there they should be aware of it. (( I'll do this with an in character post from Tolith but add an ooc note that only dwarves living in the halls,(or visiting lately, or been told by Tolith) would know of this.)) Part two: Theft of the tablet (portion of, it is not whole): This will be to generate more initial interest. The tablet (portion of) will be stolen by a group of duegar (or whatever the dark dwarves near the cobalt supply in vives are called , will look first of course). ((I'll make this known via a news post posted around the settlements.)) ((this will be several days after the initial buzz post to ensure more dwarves hear about it and can discuss it some.)) The reason for the duegar theft of the tablet (portion of) is simply; they heard of its discovery and desire the undoubtably valuable information the tablet, written in some lost (obviously dwarven) tongue must contain. Obviously the tablet (portion of) must be reclaimed and returned to the halls of Bregodim. Part three: Search for the elder: This will be a very old dwarf whos grandfather spoke the lost tongue (well the basics anyway). This dwarf will however be blind and a means of him "seeing" the tablet must be utilized. As of now the only parts of the tablet chunk that has been made legible will read "Dulzen Rien" ("Deep forge", the old dwarf will know the translation). As more of it gets properly and carefully cleaned there will be more broken bits about the dwarven pilgrimage towards the surface (bregodim halls). This should lead to the knowledge of Dulzen Riens ' existance. Part four: Search for Dulzen Rien: As more is revealed it could possibly say just enough to lead a group on a failed search. A failed search or two (as more is revealed) may help generate more interest. Eventually (when the area is in game) enough will be revealed to lead to a sucessful search. *edit* . I decided I will do step one "the buzz over the tablet", with an in character post from Tolith instead of a news post. It is more suited for that IMO. I do still plan to post the "theft of the tablet" (part two) in the news section. Tho the actual theft section could yet change dramatically.  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 01 Feb 2005 10:58 PM *note to self* I think more pieces of the tablet should be found over time giving some of these clues.  Arathon vives.dyndns.org Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1885 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 01 Feb 2005 11:06 PM Just a thought.......... As I'm redoing Icy Vale and extending areas northwards to include the divider chain............ how about some sort of IG reasoning through a quest or otherwise leading to a slight warming in the lands......... explaining the use of the snow rural tileset visually and also the opening of routes across the mountains once again? Could also lead to new areas opening up whilst being added slowly and the eventual uncovering of Dulzen? ` Just a quick though, let me know what you think? - Ara Vives Screenshots!  Arathon vives.dyndns.org Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1885 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 01 Feb 2005 11:10 PM Idea being (to clarify a little)...... Some sort of climate shift (not sure whether natural/magical/linked in with the runes/sones/whatever) which players can influence then slowly see happen in game........ first Icy vale becoming a little warmer (though still bitter) then the opening of the mountains and slowly a route through them appearing (we can block it off using Ice stuff as placeables etc until they've thawed). This might then lead to an ancient valley opening (with pc's help ssomehow?) and eventually through Gash's plot stuff the Dwarven Halls? Just thoughts! :) - Ara Vives Screenshots!  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 01 Feb 2005 11:17 PM Yeah Ice could be a factor in Delzun Rein remaining lost for so long. I like it. Will look more tomorrow with less ale in me and try to work on adjusting . And let everyone else look and toss out ideas for tieing the climate shift in however seems best. Perhaps it is part of the normal cycle of the living (and dying) Vives entity ? A gradual (very gradual I hope) step in the sundering or whatever it was Vives did when it died to be reborn. (sundering happens right before vives is set up on NWN2 is my vote :p. All new PCS all new cycle.) I will try to work on the tolith post tonight to gradually get tha ball rolling.  Solitaire Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Total Posts: 2220 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 02 Feb 2005 08:37 AM If you want .... since Ilyana is about to disappear for a couple of months .... she could be working on something to drive away the ice and therefore diminish Helkris's power. This can work a bit or not very much, or be reversed later in time if needed. Just a thought that could explain Ilyana's absence - Sol - Solitaire, Wizard - Ilyana Fiirhaart, High Priestess of Naruth  Mykal Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Total Posts: 1633 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 02 Feb 2005 08:58 AM Another option we could pursue it to tie this into our future "True Dragons" plots. Have the PC's "wake up" the "Dracos Inviticus" The fire of the first stirrings of this massive and most ancient dragon could be what causes the ice to melt. We could also do some foreshadowing of what is to come. -DB Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them. -Henry David Thoreau  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 04 Feb 2005 05:06 PM Ara, or PD out of curiosity..... Is there anyway one of you could put a hole in the floor in the back corner of the feasting room in the feasting halls building in Bregodim halls? Maybe knock a few chairs down ? (If I can do any of these things in game with the dm tools let me know and I'll shut up :p) I'm seeing duegar tunneling into there to steal the tablet. Some form of magic to conceal the noise. And done at a very odd hour when there were very few around. If this isn't feasible it's no big deal. Im just walking around in game in dm client trying to "see" the theft of the tablet episode.  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 04 Feb 2005 05:08 PM Bah never mind .. DOH I can just use the preexisting hole by the ore heheh.  Arathon vives.dyndns.org Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1885 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 04 Feb 2005 05:48 PM You can actually place one in game ;) use the creator, choose placeable object, and in there somewhere are two objects called large hole and small hole (in the standard pallette). - Ara EDIT: It's under miscellaneous :D Vives Screenshots!  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 11 Feb 2005 04:00 PM ((wanted to post in here first. For ideas, proof-reading, name callingwhatever yall may wanna toss at me. This will be in the role play story line section. Might do a news post of flyers being pinned in the towns and such that any information leading to the duegar responsible for this theft will be rewarded handsomely. )) The two dwarven guards stood protectively in front of the tablet. At last most of the gathered had gone for the night to rest. Only a couple scragglers remained and these were being ushered out by the pair of guards whos shift had just ended. It had become a madhouse in the halls since the discovery of the tablet. Dwarves gathering in the hopes of getting a glimpse of the ancient tablet, elders being summoned from all around to try to translate the strange writings. Looking at his partner with a soft sigh, Jargun silently decided being a guard was a much less hectic job before the discovery of the tablet. Durvon, the older of the two guards stationed inside the great feasting hall, caught the soft sigh and seemed to read the younger dwarfs mind. "It'll be gettin back t' normal after they fer findin out what this rocks fer sayin." Durvon spoke reassuringly to Jargun. "I was 'cited as all th' rest o' them" he continued. " But now im fer 'opin' they 'urry up an fin' somethin' out." Jargun with a forced smile upon his face replied. "It ain't fer bein proper. Darfs should be 'citedly workin th' rock, not fer clammerin' 'roun' tryin' t' be fer readin it. Asides I thought 'alf o' 'em wasn't fer readin modern darvish? 'Ow they s'pose t' be readin this?" Durvon chuckled heartily at the words of his young companion. The laughter quickly faded from his face replaced by a look of surprise, mixed with a look of curiosity. Jargun was regarding him with much the same expression. The blade protruding from his throat spilling a pool of blood that grew at the young dwarfs feet. Jargun shuddered and made a failed attempt to draw in one final breath before collapsing, lifeless, to the floor. Durvons last thoughts first went to the family of the young recently wed Jargun, then grasped upon his own family for a moment, before finally settling upon the final thought that he had let his people down. The dwarf reached to the black , obviously duegar blade, that protruded from his own throat before collapsing into the crimson pool that formerly flowed life through Durvons dwarven frame. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The duegar assassins turned to face the duegar mage who simply nodded towards the tablet then to the newly formed tunnel into the feasting halls. Without any words the magically silenced assassins grabbed the tablet and entered the tunnel, the mage close behind them. The trio passed a crew of duegar miners, magically silenced for this section of the dig. "Collapse it behind us now." The mage instructed the miners in the rough, broken language of the duegar. One of the miners nodded to the mage and turned and began barking orders to the others. A flurry of activity was the response to the few short commands issued. In less than half a minute a 50 foot section of the tunnel was collapsed behind them. That was only the first collapse point. There were more than 50 other ready to collapse sections in between the halls of Bregodim and their destination... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barmer Barrelflask, head of watch for the night shift guards, patrolled the halls normally checking in on his guards in their various posts. The unnatural darkness in the back of the room let him know something was amiss as soon as he entered the feasting halls. Quickly retrieving a whistle worn around his neck he produced a shrill , invasive tone that quickly got the attention of all guards not on gate detail. The magic in the whistle also dissipating the magical veil of darkness in the back of the room, revealing the lifeless bodies of Durvon and Jargun, the hole in the floor, and the absense of the ancient tablet. Barmer ran to the now mostly caved in hole and began yelling orders. "Get a team o' miners in 'ere. See if ye can find a cleric to try to aid Durvon and Jargun." Looking at the black blade protruding from both of the dwarves throats he continues. "An' roun' up all th' able bodies ye can be findin'. We 'untin them damnable duegar." Looking at the mostly collapsed hole in the floor, Barmer sighed deeply, knowing time as well as duegar was the enemy. Every moment that passed decreased their odds of tracking down the duegar responsible and the wise dwarven commander was all too aware of that fact.  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 14 Feb 2005 02:40 PM Ok this chunk of the tablet has been reclaimed. This was done yesterday in game. Big thanks to Benny for making it happen. Afterwards the group was talking (Johe, vinduis (or whatever the name is), claudia, balthor , tolith and a few others) and the discussion led to the search for an elder named Nurha Gaarhah. ("Lore Keeper" in dwarven). This will be the one who can translate the tablet chunk (or chunks if they find more before they find him.). There is a dwarven mining crew that has been excavating the area the first chunk was found for a couple weeks. They will soon reveal the discovery of another chunk. Johe has been dying to be lowered into the hole near the mine since the attacks on the halls by the elemental forces. so one piece can be found by him that way. Not sure how many chunks in all there will be. I'll kind of play that by ear depending on the timeframe for dulzen rien to be a reality. I've started a 2nd part to the "shadows of the halls of past glory". This will detail Toliths discovery of the theft. And the in game events of yesterday reclaiming that chunk. Spring fire Season starts tomorrow. I need to do a supply run today so I may not finish the story today. If not I'll work on it during down time at work. This post is just a little heads up as to where this story is at the moment.  Arathon vives.dyndns.org Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1885 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 15 Feb 2005 10:32 AM Gash...... I'm working on it this week........ the interior and mainly the outside areas (mountains and such).......... Not sure what to do about the interior really? If it's discovered there wouldn't be Dwarves occupying it would there? Maybe we can start to populate it etc when it has been discovered and the Dwarven players start Roleplaying moving in? Not sure what you think on this, entirely up to you :) (By populating it I mean, merchants, NPC's and the like). Let me know your thoughts :D - Ara Vives Screenshots!  pdwalker Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Total Posts: 5692 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 15 Feb 2005 11:10 AM yes, it should be empty... unless someone has been living here all that time? Purpose in life: finding better ways of allowing players to kill themselves. Repeatedly. -- "...Cause he mixes it with love And makes the world taste good." -- <@James42> Lawful good isn't in your vocabulary, it's on your menu.  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 15 Feb 2005 05:18 PM According to Coruvas writings not all the dwarves left the Dulzein Rein. There was a split. Those believing their destiny lay closer to the surface forged ahead with the prophets. Many others stayed behind. Is what I gathered from it. However since the tablet was written in a lost dwarven dialect id wager those who have lived there still would speak said dialect. Which would involve creating another language. Sounds like a big ole load o work. Considering that, it may be easier if something happened to run off or destroy those that remained in between the time of the split and modern day vives. Of course also this lost dwarven dialect could in fact be nothing more than some form of coded dwarven and the dwarves living simply do not know the code. (other than Nurha Gaarhah of course.) I'm in no way trying to rush anyone. LIke I say there can be as many tablet chunks/ plot twists as needed, added to buy time.  Arathon vives.dyndns.org Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1885 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 15 Feb 2005 05:19 PM Another thing I'll be needing............. the City is gonna be built within a mountain (the interiors to reflect such, on varying levels)....... This mountain will be either: (A) Part of the Divider Chain. (B) Right next to the Divider Chain. (Up to you folks really :D) The Divider Chain are a range of snowcapped Mountains going north of Icy Vale (see other threads for more info)....... So how about some cool suggestions for a name? Maybe link it in with Bregodim ((EDIT: Put in Gruin by mistake doh!))? Let me know :D - Ara Vives Screenshots!  Arathon vives.dyndns.org Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1885 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 15 Feb 2005 05:22 PM What if the Tarrasque laid waste to'em :P Vives Screenshots!  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 15 Feb 2005 07:45 PM What if the Tarrasque laid waste to'em :P I like the idea of something (tarrasque, any other critter you may wanna involve youre the builder of things) driving the dwarves that remained in Dulzein Rein down into the lowest habitable section. There they set up final defenses blocking access to the world above. Then players not only get to discover this spiffy new dwarven halls, they get to liberate a suppressed / forced to withdraw away from instead of progress towards the world people !!! Will get to your previous post with some stuff from Coruvas writings.  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 27 Feb 2005 03:33 PM A duergar warband assaulted Bregodim halls last night. Balthor was in midor mines, many of the group came through that way and laid waste to the unsuspecting balthor pretty quickly. A unit of bregodim defenders pushed the assault back from the gates of the halls. Seeing several on the mountain coming from the mines a group was sent out to destroy the scragglers and search the mine. Where they found and destroyed some duergar and healed up balthor. As the group was returning to the halls to make sure all was well on the homefront they were attacked by a small group of powerful duergar. One of the defenders was felled when the duergar mage used time stop. Balthor finished the mage off. The defenders dragged their fallen comrade back to the halls. *** Today in game Tolith saw Balthor and balthor told him of the attack. Tolith mentioned looking for Nurha Gaarhah , basically recapping some of the important info. By the end of the meeting Balthor had ensured Tolith that he would post notes for a meeting, in the hopes of some of the more often travelling dwarves (pcs) seeing the notes and getting more help. I'll keep an eye on his post and try to have all information to this point ready to lay out on the time decided. Providing of course some dwarves show up. There will be a couple more tablet fragments discovered by then. That meeting will be the first the pcs have heard of the two new fragments.  Gasher_Bloodspuer Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Total Posts: 670 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 27 Feb 2005 05:10 PM Random thought.. The question "Why do the duergar want the tablet so badly?" comes up often. Rightfully so. Perhaps the duergar have managed to dig / find a way into dulzein rein. When exploring down (or up whatever is best for the finished build.) they came across whatever had the remaining dwarves (that didnt join the pilgrimage to Bregodim halls) trapped in the lower (upper whatevers best for the build.) level. So they retreated back to the previously safe level. So we've got a level of some ancient obviously dwarven home inhabited by duergar eager to see what lies below, but not yet eager to face whatever has kept the dwarves trapped. When duergar spies brought word to the duergar chiefs /king whatever of the discovery of an ancient dwarven tablet , they feared it might contain clues that would lead the dwarves to them before they had the chance to see / take whatever lay below. Not wanting to take the risk of the ancient tablet containing information that would mention the place they hoped to plunder, the duergar hoped to steal it away. Just a random thought. Posted here in hopes of keeping me reminded of this possibility and fleshing it at work or something, and of course for any ideas/ thoughts to be tossed in by the team.  Mykal Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Total Posts: 1633 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 27 Feb 2005 05:28 PM Perhaps the duergar believe that if they claim Dulzein Rien first, Bregodim will bestow his blessing on them and not the surface dwarves. In this paradiam, the duergar are seeking to replace the other dwarves in Bregodim's favor. The conflict then becomes a religious crusade for the duergar. Another alternative is that the duergar may hate bregodim for abandoning them and giving his blessing to the dwarves. They may believe (and maybe it is true) that if the breech Dulzen Rien first, they can sever Bregodim's link with the dwarves, thus removing their patron and destorying their society. Perhaps they need the information ont he Tablet to complete a ritual that would sever the link. Both ideas speak of a massive hatred fo the dwarves by the duergar. Just 2 cents here. -DB Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them. -Henry David Thoreau  Arathon vives.dyndns.org Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Total Posts: 1885 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 01 Feb 2006 10:08 AM Since I'm working on Nothari'in and The Duergar now, and they're almost fully ready )them and their city) to go in game........ then I thought this could do with a BUMP! Also looking for a spot for the mountain under which dulzen rien resides still ;) - Ara Vives Screenshots!  Fictrix Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Total Posts: 3042 Send PM   Re: DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien Posted: 14 Jul 2013 12:46 PM For the public forums? *tips hat to Coruva* Previous Thread :: Next Thread  Page 1 of 1   Forums  > From Behind the Curtains  > From Behind the Curtains  > DM: Discovery of Dulzen Rien